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Name

It seems to me "World Conservation Union" is not an official name of the IUCN, but its slogan. The logo makes it unclear, and thus the article does, too. --24.3.109.73 22:31, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is the official name. From their website:

What does IUCN stand for?
The International Union for the Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources.
Use of the name “World Conservation Union” began in 1990, but the full name and the acronym are often used together as many people still know the Union as IUCN.
The World Conservation Union was founded in October 1948 as the International Union for the Protection of Nature (or IUPN) following an international conference in Fontainebleau, France. The organization changed its name to the International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources in 1956.

--Svetovid 23:15, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Done--Svetovid 11:54, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Capitalisation of conservation statuses

Please see the ongoing discussion on Talk:Conservation status#Capitalisation of conservation statuses.
Coreyemotela (talk) 14:22, 1 June 2014 (UTC).[reply]

List of meetings

Do we need to add list of international meetings? --History of Geo (talk) 06:48, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Make some improvements

I am going to have a go at improving this article: sort out structure and style, get better references, update the content and overall make it more neutral and 'encyclopedic'. If anyone wants to join in, feel free! Nl maclean (talk) 12:55, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Made a start: rewrote the introduction. Next step will be to include more about the history. At the moment there are just lists of names and dates. I am looking at the article about Amnesty International for inspiration, but perhaps not that much text. Nl maclean (talk) 16:30, 24 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Step 2: expanded the section on history, using Martin Holdgate's history of IUCN. (Holdgate, M, 1999. The Green Web: a union of world conservation. Earthscan) but citing additional sources where possible. Next step: information on IUCN's current activities, impact and criticism. Nl maclean (talk) 13:21, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Step3a: added a section on governance. Nl maclean (talk) 20:27, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Step3b: new section on current work - and three pictures! Nl maclean (talk) 21:37, 4 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Step 4. Added section on influence and criticism. Still to go: funding and revising the section on organisational structure. Nl maclean (talk) 14:46, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Step 5. Added information on funding. Revised the section on organizational structure and publications. Removed the template on extinction as this article is about the organization IUCN and not about extinction as such. Next: one last final check. Nl maclean (talk) 15:29, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Step 6. Done! Went through the whole thing one last time. I have taken it as far as I can go. Nl maclean (talk) 13:54, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Renewable energy

Could this article be rewritten (or otherwise improved) to discuss the IUCN's role in renewable energy as part of the Sustainable Development Goals in the Post-2015 Development Agenda? MaynardClark (talk) 02:03, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to add information! Renewable energy is only one of the many issues IUCN is involved in and rewriting the entire article seems a bit over the top. Nl maclean (talk) 10:33, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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GONGO

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It is considered to be the first GONGO, i.e. Governmental and Non-Governmental Organization.

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The Wikipedia article GONGO is about grey propaganda, not an association of government and non-government organizations. A Google Books search reveals four uses of the term GONGO in this sense, all in reference to IUPN. Given the lack of witnesses to this term, I don't think Wikipedia should use it. However, perhaps the claim about being the first association of government and non-government organizations should be clarified and added back with a good citation. Sondra.kinsey (talk) 22:36, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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NPOV sources

Hi all,

I am adding the Third Party tag to the entire article. This is because every section except influence/criticism is heavily reliant on self published or biased sources. This includes history, which relies heavily on a book by Martin Holdgate, who used to be a director general of the organization.

I have not read all the content of the article, but it's clear that this bias of sources has seeped into the writing. For example, not using mass campaigns is actually a fairly common practice among environmental nonprofits; it is not something unique to the IUCN as the article says. Toad02 (talk) 13:32, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

History section

I recently cut down on the history section. It was, and still is, far too long. It was about half the article previously, and that's much more than necessary or proper. It is still about 1/4th of the article. Compared to other environmental organizations' pages, it goes in great, seemingly unnecessary depth.

Additionally, much of this information was poorly sourced (see NPOV sources section), meaning that any reverts or replacements of things I have deleted should include better sourcing as per WP:BURDEN. Toad02 (talk) 14:32, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

~~I realize I might have killed some citations by doing this. Please tell me if you see that anywhere. Toad02 (talk) 14:58, 8 August 2019 (UTC)~~[reply]

Nevermind. A bot fixed this. Toad02 (talk) 14:39, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with most of your edits (thanks! you have improved the article) but have replaced some sections which I think are relevant. This includes the section on influence. That IUCN has influence is a fact and not merely p.r. I.m.o. the article loses neutrality and balance when the section on criticism (also based on Holgate, who you consider to be not a reliable source?) is retained and the section on influence is removed. Nl maclean (talk) 16:03, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the restorations to history! (it's hard to evaluate all that).

I think everything in influence is stated elsewhere, but I agree that it could help neutrality (although I'd prefer concision).

Martin Holdgate was director general of IUCN. I think that makes him "closely associated with the subject," especially when he's been cited as much as he is. Toad02 (talk) 04:05, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]