Talk:William McKinley Monument

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Better pictures

Maybe someone can get better pictures of the monument to upload. (Another Believer, if you happen to wander by, the monument has two sides, each of interest.) And please, someone put something on top of that truncated capitol dome. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:26, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Randy Kryn: I don't claim to be a good photographer (and I just have a cheap point and click camera), but I will definitely be going by this memorial. I plan to visit all sculptures on the capitol grounds. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:59, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Randy Kryn: Lighting wasn't really in my favor, but I've uploaded a few more images to Commons. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:22, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work, you really filled the commons collection. The new one on the page is interesting, especially the sentiments carved into the back of the monument. And the postcard has a nice antique feel to it. Randy Kryn (talk) 02:35, 26 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Title?

Based on both sources currently used as inline citations, I wonder if McKinley Memorial or McKinley Memorial (Columbus, Ohio) is a more appropriate article title? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:11, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Probably correct, although a source also mentions monument in its description. Given there are other Memorials then your suggested title McKinley Memorial (Columbus) - "Ohio" not needed - works best. Randy Kryn (talk) 21:45, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gallery

@Randy Kryn: WP:GALLERY states "Articles consisting entirely or primarily of galleries are discouraged", and more. As it stood, the large numerous images took over more space than any text, so the gallery here is discouraged. Commons is the place for this until/unless it's expanded. In general galleries are less than ideal, and should exist on Commons, or have the images moved to throughout the article if it's long enough (which it isn't). And there's been an issue of formatting: you fixed the messed-up sizing of the gallery, but now there's an enormous amount of whitespace. $ɱ$ (talk) 23:43, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. No, this is fine. It's a page about a sculpture. You're reading too much into the language, and if you are making a habit of getting rid of galleries please stop. There is enough text in this article to describe the artwork, and then the gallery and infobox show the artwork. The 'clear' coding lines up the gallery which, before, was all over the place. Now there is nothing broken here, and I can't figure how you think there is. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:45, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Now there's a piece of white space awkwardly larger than the gallery or any paragraphs. It's an indiscriminate collection of images, with the historical postcard present. Perhaps you can craft it into just showing closeups, removing the postcard or placing it elsewhere.

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(talk) 23:52, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Otherwise I'd love if you could contribute text to this article and/or others, there's lots to flesh out on Columbus topics all over here.

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(talk) 23:53, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not much more to add, although possibly quoting some of the quotes on the sculpture. The white space is caused by the large map, if that was removed then it would tighten up the white space. Maybe moving the postcard up to the whitespace, on the left, before the gallery. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:28, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There actually is plenty more text worthy of adding, I know for a fact. I'm not sure what your continued problem is with a map that is interactive and points out plenty of other artistic and historical attractions across the statehouse square...

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(talk) 00:43, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Then including the large map shouldn't be a reason for removing the gallery. White space is fine to a point. The quotations are easily read when enlarging the back and front photos, and also noticed the eagle relief sculpture on the back. McKinley was very popular and his assassination was a national trauma that is not focused on enough today, but also made way for the important policies and gains of the Roosevelt administration. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:52, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Applause to Theramin for looking at the article and this discussion, shaking his head, and commencing to write a full and interesting article from the sources. Thanks, you've given the monument the article it deserves. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:40, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]