Talk:Wild Arms (video game)

Game Name

The correct title of the game is Wild ARMs. In the game, it's specifically noted that ARMs stands for something... but it's been so long since I've played the game, that I can't remember what. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.91.227.57 (talk • contribs)

It is not. Please see Talk:Wild Arms series for details. --Zeno McDohl ^(talk) 17:28, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

It stands for Ancient Relic Machines. Though if I'm not mistaken, Wild ARMs 2 gave a different meanings. Buy you're right in that it should be "ARMs" rather than "Arms."--WishfireOmega (talk) 11:50, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

I repeat, it should not be ARMs. --Zeno McDohl ^(talk) 04:02, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:Wild_Arms_series#Objection_to_Title_Capitalization

To Do

It's been a while since I played, so I don't have much to say as for a description.

• Add description
• port data from series article where appropriate
• find a cover
• Add more screenshots (in game etc)
• Reference to sequels

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Number of Players

It's true the game is only 1 player, but both controller ports are able to control the game, I figure we should mention this somewhere. I'd play with my brother a lot. (Split up party control during battle) --Zeno McDohl 15:09, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, that's right, if you have two controllers plugged in then the second controller can basically do anything that the first one can, so in a way it's two-player. Quite fun for battles, but there's always squabbling about who gets to control who... Dragonfly888 17:58, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Character list

Because the heroes only appear in WA and WA:ACF, I think we don't need another page for them. We could just list their information etc on the WA page. --Zeno McDohl 18:25, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Move completed.

The title "Wild Arms" was improperly capitalized. I have moved this talk page manually at the request of Zeno McDohl. Apologies for the inconvenience... --E. Megas 23:49, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

GApassed

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   a (fair representation): b (all significant views):

5. It is stable.

   

6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.

   a (tagged and captioned): b lack of images (does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):

7. Overall:

   a Pass/Fail:

It looks pretty good. A copy-edit may be needed to weed out issues and redundancies for the FA push, and script cites for the story section are also a good idea. Passable on the whole; nice job. — Deckiller 03:05, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Alter Code F

Was the merge really necessary? The game apparently has remade graphics and soundtrack, new dungeons, characters and FMVs. Wouldn't that be enough for its own article? Haven't played the game though. --Mika1h (talk) 22:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

I've played the game all the way through, even some new sequences not outlined or told in the original game are in it. It should get its own article myself. (iyeru42-Guest) 66.168.19.135 (talk) 04:33, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

It could probably get a decent stand alone article, but everyone including myself is too lazy to write one. - Norse Am Legend (talk) 20:14, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

I, too, support the split. Punkalyptic (talk) 05:34, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Likely mis-translated words...

OK, so I was wondering if we can/should add a section for likely mis-romanized names, since there are quite a few around. A few examples I came upon just now:

• Belial, not Berial. Katakana for both is ベリアル.
• Marduk, not Malduke. Katakana for both is マルドゥーク.
• Ka Dingir, not Ka Dingel. I'm not sure about the katakana, but since "Ka.dingir.ra" is listed as the Sumerian word for Babylon meaning "gate of the gods," I can't help but ignore that. The Sumerian reference also helps establish the fact that マルドゥーク more likely was meant to romanize to "Marduk."

I know trivia sections are frowned upon, but is there anything that can be done?

--Yoshiaki Abe (talk) 22:20, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Rudy's backstory has misleading language

Because it talks about him being from a small village and then immediately talks about the mayor of surf village it implies that he was born and raised there. This is misleading. Through flashbacks it has revealed he spent time living in other locations as well as traveling with his grandfather. There's some major spoiler there too, but I don't know the rules about that

I don't think the village shown in his childhood flashback was even visitable in game, so the section needs at least that much redone. Unless I am mistaken? S.R.Osuna (talk) 23:02, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

ACF Infobox Issue

I have a 1024x768 Monitor (yeah, boo, boo...) and the infobox pushes down the last two paragraphs of the sub-article ACF. Removing the {{-}} template fixes this, but causes it to overlap with the refs. 24.241.229.253 (talk) 14:42, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Into the Wilderness source is incorrect

The main theme is apparently a remix of the theme used in the trailer for Day of Anger (a 1967 western), and not the theme for the wild bunch from My Name is Nobody. It's completely misattributed.

Adumbrodeus (talk) 15:40, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

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GA concerns

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria because there are numerous uncited statements, including entire paragraphs. Is anyone interested in fixing this up, or should it go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 06:33, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

Wild Arms (video game)

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Result: Kept. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:22, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

This article has numerous uncited statements, including entire paragraphs. Z1720 (talk) 13:38, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

• Comment Yet another driveby nomination with absolutely no attempt to fix the situation yourself, which would be easily doable since most of the article is still sourced. Seriously, stop with the frivolous delisting as it's tatamount to disruptive. Focus on fixing it first, and attempt to delist if the article is unfixable without a major rewrite of all content. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:44, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

  He posted about it a month ago—Talk:Wild Arms (video game)#GA concerns—and apparently no one is maintaining the article. Degradation in the article's quality isn't the nominator's burden to correct. This is easily a multi-hour project to bring the article back up to quality. czar 13:57, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

• This looks very easily fixable. The plot summary is a little long by 2024 standards, but the uncited paragraphs are few and mostly stuff like "unneed details about Alter Code F that can easily be cut". Please don't close this without pinging me, I'll take a look. SnowFire (talk) 17:08, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
• Status update: Okay, Czar was right, I was wrong, this was not "easily fixable" and did indeed require multiple hours. I had assumed the article was in better shape and the only complaint was that there were some unreferenced paragraphs about Alter Code F which were unnecessary because there already was a separate ACF article. Turns out that there wasn't a separate ACF article (well, there was in the past, but it was merged back) and some of the writing was... not real great. I've expanded and referenced a full section on Alter Code: F (plenty of reviews for it, it easily merits that). I couldn't find very much on Development at all (1996 was before everything was thrown on the Internet, and whatever Wild Arms fansites of the old times existed seems to have gone down or been lost by Google), but I found one interview with Kaneko which is something. (I also asked in the Armed Fantasia Discord channel... crickets so far, but we'll see. If they don't know of anything, I don't think it's anything easy to find.) I've added in some later, PSN downloadable on PS4/PS5 era reviews.
• Areas that remain for improvement: I chopped down the plot length, although it's still over the current recommended max (but I also think that going a little over it is fine as said max is on the too-low side). Since it was largely dead-tree guidebooks in 1996 that don't appear to be on the net (seriously, this alleged BradyGames guide barely appears to exist, one seller wanted 200 bucks for it), I'm not spending money on these old guides. I'll AGF that they largely back up game details that they were used for before, somewhere, as well as some of my minor alterations. But ideally someone would check the Brady / Prima / etc. guides and maybe add page numbers. I did not go over the old PSX Reception section super closely, but did check some of the reviews and formatted the cites better, but it does have a somewhat "hypey" tone in parts that I'm not 100% certain is merited. Also, Japanese reception is nearly entirely missing, with both the WA1 & WAACF sections largely talking about the English localizations. But digging up JP reviews would be a lot of work.
• The article is not at a level where I, personally, would nominate it as a GA fresh to my own personal standards. But I also think that the actual Wikipedia GA standard as written is pretty attainable and not as strict as what most people nominate new stuff for, and think that the article may be back up to that fairly achievable level. @Z1720, Zxcvbnm, and Czar: What do you think? Are we good to keep it, or think it still needs more work? SnowFire (talk) 07:08, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

  When I said it was fast to fix, I didn't necessarily mean adding a full section worth of content about Alter Code F. Alter Code F definitely needed work, but that could have technically been done in a separate draft at some other time as it merits its own article if sufficiently expanded. What it seems like to me is that it was merged for being unfinished rather than non-notable. Given that you have improved it so much, it should probably be split and turned into an article again.

  Right now I think the article not just meets GA criteria but surpasses them handily, it's probably A class right now. Its main weakness is, as you said, the lack of development info but that will be tough to find given how old and obscure-ish the game is. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:12, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

• Keep My concerns have resolved, and I have no further concerns. If no further information about development can be found, then it cannot be added to the article. Z1720 (talk) 14:16, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

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