Talk:Webcomics in China

article needs some more context and examples

Some citations required in the lead. A more pressing issue is the need for some actual examples and some context. Dissemination through social media is mentioned, and this is certainly true, but which platforms? To get us started I'm going to mention Wechat,Tencent Weibo and QQ kongjian; all tencent services. Messengers are used to spread cartoons as are animated gif emojis as well as more typical blog based cartoons. The gif based ones are especially important as people can pass them around without having to leave a more permanent post. Here's the link to the Wikipedia article on weibo. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Weibo . Searching baidu for 微博漫画 and confining the search within popular news sources can often link you to cartoons. Anyway I like this page so I'll stick around and have a look in from time to time if I dig up any info. I hope that this page can spawn new articles on current cartoonists who are achieving popularity or notoriety. Let me come back with some popular examples and see what we can do from there. would be great to have some PRC editors on this page.Edaham (talk) 08:16, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

All content in the lead section is repeated in the prose and sourced in the prose (as generally should be the case). The websites Douban and Sina Weibo are mentioned as examples of social media on which Chinese webcomics are shared in the "History" section. I have the weakness in that I can only really use English-language sources, however, so I would definitely appreciate some actual (online) Chinese newspapers/magazines to be added as sources. I have red-linked some Chinese webcartoonists/bloggers in the article with the hope that things can expand from here, but I think I'd rather leave all that to people that can actually read Mandarin. ~Mable (chat) 08:34, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Mandarin reading Shanghai based webcomic fan at your service - would you rather I edit the article directly and leave you to refine it or shall I post here in the talk with findings and cuttings and let the more experienced editors do the actual copy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edaham (talk • contribs) 09:36, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Both is fine with me, so if you feel more comfortable just describing things here, then I have no problem adding all the new info to the article itself :) Either way, I'm really curious about what you can find. Just randomly listing examples of webcomics that are popular in China may not be the best way to go about expanding the article, but as we stand, I wouldn't even know how to Google for Chinese webcomics, so anything you can find on the topic is helpful. ~Mable (chat) 10:01, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Merge into Webtoons

I know that the webcomics in this articles refers to Chinese webtoons so I was wondering if we should just merge the information on this page and add it to the webtoon page considering that they are now used as a format outside of Korea. AquilaXIII (talk) 22:09, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Webtoon is an article that has been on my radar for a completely rewrite for a long time now. Looking at this article, I don't really see the connection with webtoon or Korean webcomics at all, though. The word "webtoon" isn't even mentioned in the article as it is, nor is it used in any of the sources. If webtoon services like Line Webtoon are indeed really big in China right now (I know they are in other Asian countries, like Indonesia and India), then it could probably be added as information here. I should go look for some sources and see if there has been any changes in the past year and a half! I think this article can use a bit of an update :) ~Mable (chat) 09:21, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Merger into Manhua

@AquilaXIII: I'm not sure about the merger into manhua. Though most of the article came through alright, I worry if there might be some undue weight issues. I expanded the section there some more, but I think this worked fine as a separate article. I'm also tagging @TaiwaneseWaveVN:, as they undid your bold merger earlier. ~Mable (chat) 12:12, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

@Maplestrip:, @TaiwaneseWaveVN: The reason I merged them into the main manhua page was to prevent what was done before. Digital comics, webcomics, and webtoons are all totally completely different things and that's why I merged the articles together because the "Webcomics in China" treated web manhua (digital manhua that is released online), webcomics, and webtoons as interchangeable terms when they're not. Before I make any changes, I want to make sure that it is understood that the merger and changes were done to distinguish the three different formats of comics so that it is not reverted again later on. AquilaXIII (talk) 19:41, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

In my experience, webtoons are generally a type of webcomics. This is the first I hear of webtoons being a completely different thing from webcomics, honestly. The distinction between digital comics and webcomics is generally a pretty complicated one, though, so I understand that worry. ~Mable (chat) 17:17, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

@Maplestrip: This is generally true when it comes to the majority of western webtoons where they are mainly webcomics in a webtoon format but for the rest of the world, mainly Asia, they are a distinct format for comics that in some places have overtaken traditional print comics. Many sequels of popular comics that were originally made in print were instead created as webtoons. AquilaXIII (talk) 22:35, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

All webcomics is a distinct format from comics. The webtoon's common use of the infinite canvas and mobile devices doesn't make it that different from regular webcomics. [{Scott McCloud]] pretty much predicted this was the direction many webcomics would go in back in 2000. I love the webtoon format, and am very happy that webcomics have taken over print comics in South-East Asia thanks due to this format. ~Mable (chat) 08:28, 7 May 2018 (UTC)