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what the song is about

The text says: "'Waterloo' is based on a romance taking place during the Battle of Waterloo where Napoleon Bonaparte was defeated in 1815." Is this true? I always thought Waterloo was about a girl or woman giving in to a guy's love just like Napoleon had to give in at Waterloo. the text goes: "the history book on the shelf, is always repeating itself" meaning history repeats, an not that this romance takes place during the battle of Waterloo. PrinceCharming 16:28, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Unless there is proof by someone tied in to ABBA, it's just wishful thinking. Edit that part out. Mike H. That's hot 17:48, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was move. —Nightst a llion (?) 12:40, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

Talk:Waterloo (English version) - Waterloo (English version) → Waterloo (ABBA song) - This is the only article on a song called "Waterloo" and "English version" lacks context -- MisterHand 16:37, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~~~~

Support as per reason given. David Kernow 22:52, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nominator. There is no reason an article about any other version of the song should be on the English Wikipedia. joturner 02:40, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Francis Schonken 11:47, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose "Waterloo" wasn't the only single ABBA released in two separate versions. ~~~~ (signed by Supertrouperdc)AndyZ 00:02, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support The above comment makes no sense - so what? Graham 04:57, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- I was surprised to see this article name. Further Waterloo (ABBA song) should contain any encyclopedic information about any version (until the article becomes unmangeable). Jkelly 05:06, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Add any additional comments Waterloo (ABBA song) was the original location of this article. It was moved here in July 2005 by Supertrouperdc (talk · contribs). Jkelly 22:11, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Sample?

What sampled the song because there is another song that sounds just like it which I can't find. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yellowstone County Girl (talk • contribs) 04:11, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The melody of ABBA's "Waterloo" sounds exactly like "Build Me Up Buttercup" by The Foundations. It has been noted before. The resemblance of the hook line is huge.

it is. Build Me Up Buttercup Saemikneu (talk) 11:13, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 03:25, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't Abba more Pop than Rock?

--Tyranny Sue (talk) 12:27, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Language?

Waterloo has been recorded in both English and Swedish. But which was the language when they performed it in the Song Contest? I just recently learned that while the songs nominally had to be in country's own language, many of them were actually performed in english in the 1970s. 82.141.75.125 (talk) 17:27, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I seem to remember that it was performed in English on the contest itself, as I watched it live on TV at the time. However my memory may be playing me tricks, as I was only twelve in 1974.

... here you go - it was in English - the actual recording of the ABBA 1974 contest entry on YouTube: [1] - IIRC, the BBC commentator is David Vine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.147.13 (talk) 15:37, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Uk sales

The silver disc is for downlaods/streams and is therefore sales of 200,000.

It was not awarded a silver disc in 1974 - even though it sold enough to be eligible. The record company didn't apply. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coachtripfan (talk • contribs) 16:53, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pol098's recent edits

The word "album" and the following punctuation should not be linked. Suggesting that MOS:PIPE and MOS:LINKCLARITY support it are simply misleading. The former indicates that piping is possible, but it was already in use, and the latter states that "The article linked to should correspond as closely as possible to the term showing as the link", and Waterloo linked to Waterloo (album) is absolutely correct. It is not an WP:EASTEREGG nor is it incorrect. Since the noun precedes the link, it is entirely clear what is being linked to and does not need any change.

As for, genius.com, it is a self-published source with no reliable editorial staff, so that makes it an entirely unusable source. I found Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 206#Genius as a source? and Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 258#Genius.com to support that claim.

@Pol098: Please stop edit warring over this and try to follow WP:BRD instead. Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:38, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

At least you got REPEATLINK correct, although it could be acceptable in this case. Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:40, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:PIPE (make sure that it is still clear what the link is about without having to follow the link) and MOS:LINKCLARITY (The article linked to should correspond as closely as possible to the term showing as the link, given the context) are quite clear in that the blue text should indicate what is being linked; linking the text "Waterloo" with the article "Waterloo (album)" is closely analogous to the examples of what not to do in the guidelines. I won't quote massively from them, but anyone who reads this thread should have a look.

Walter Görlitz: "Since the noun precedes the link, it is entirely clear what is being linked to and does not need any change." Absolutely not; not only do the guidelines say no such thing, but they give an analogous example: "Mozart's Requiem" is misleading and wrong, suggesting an artixle on what a requiem is; correct usage is "Mozart's Requiem".

I have no quarrel about genius.com not being reliable, but I note that that merely supports words quoted from the song. The paragraph deleted by Walter Görlitz is summarised information from the body of the article, added not because it's new information, but because it's relevant for a mention in the introduction. Best wishes, Pol098 (talk) 11:54, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Songs, but [[ABBA]]'s second album, ''[[Waterloo (album)|Waterloo]]'' is the correct way of formatting the linking while [[ABBA]]'s second ''[[Waterloo (album)|album, Waterloo]]'' is not. There is no confusion at all. Heck, ask at the manual of style itself.

But it's clear you are unfamiliar with Wikipedia's finer points. That can be seen from your adding of a source no experienced editor would use, or when you adjusted my edit earlier, or when you violated MOS:LISTGAP as it clearly states not to use breaks the way you just did. Regardless, thanks for stopping the edit war and leaving that section at the WP:STATUSQUO. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:03, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Uk sales

732 000 https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/abbas-official-top-20-biggest-songs__26113/ Coachtripfan (talk) 07:37, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]