Talk:Warren (burrow)
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On 1 May 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Warren to Rabbit warren. The result of the discussion was moved. |
The image
[edit]It was huge, so I thumbed it. I'm still not sure i'ts appropriate for the article because a)it's really not that easy to see that that is, in fact, a bunny and b)it's a pet bunny, not really a warren. But it's still very cute. Dina 17:00, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
- Irrelevant vanity vandalism. I removed it. --Ziusudra 18:07, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
- Fair enough, cute bunny though. ;)Dina 19:28, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Domestic warren vs. actual warren
[edit]Why is the article titled Warren, the general name for a community of rabbit dwellings, entirely about a specific subset of the types of warren? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waidawut (talk • contribs) 20:12, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Requested move 1 May 2023
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Elli (talk | contribs) 07:30, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
– As interesting as rabbit warrens may be, there are far too many other meanings of this word (including place names, the given name, and the surname) for it to realistically have a primary topic. I note that both Warren, Michigan and Warren, Ohio get several times the page views of this topic. BD2412 T 04:07, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose, the primary should remain with rabbit warren, even though the page has only the barest information about the topic (no diagrams, explanation of warrens in nature, etc.). If the term redirects to disamb. the descriptor "Rabbit warren" could conceivably be moved low on the page while now it is correctly first-lined as the primary topic. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:29, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Spiritual Transcendence (talk) 05:00, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- Support alternate move There does not appear to be a clear primary topic here, especially with regards to Warren, Michigan and Warren, Ohio. I would rather it be moved to Warren (burrow) to be more broad, then immediately merge to burrow per WP:DICDEF. Wikipedia is not a dictionary, and this page is a mere definition - we have the Wiktionary links on the disambiguation page for that. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:02, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom. 〜 Festucalex • talk 06:27, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- isn't there are problem with "rabbit". Best leave as is Oppose Warren clearly WP:PT in books and long-term. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:09, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- If "Rabbit" is the hangup, I'd be fine with the above-mentioned Warren (burrow). With respect to the natural topic, it goes by other names—den, nest, burrow—so it need not occupy this one. BD2412 T 03:14, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nomination. There are 61 entries {including three that contain numerous additional entries — Warren (name), Warren County and Warren Township} listed upon the Warren (disambiguation) page, with no indication that the relatively brief article delineating rabbit burrows holds notability to the extent of dwarfing the combined prominence of the remaining 60 entries as well as the additional entries under those three dab pages. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:30, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- Support though probably primary by long-term significance it doesn't appear to be by usage, Warren, Michigan has 5,520 views, Warren, Ohio has 4,050 and Warren, Pennsylvania has 1,328 compared with only 1,449[[1]] for the rabbit meaning though US settlements often have the state included in the common name. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:06, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note, also, Elizabeth Warren. BD2412 T 19:30, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 06:50, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Update the preferred form would be warren (burrow) per the other commenters. Rabbit warren should be a redirect to it.-- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 21:58, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
- https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=Warren indicates that the hatnote is the most commonly clicked link in the article, at 199 out of 2.9k total (~7%), which isn't decisive but indicative of a navigation problem. The mononymous dictionary meaning is certainly notable, but the article isn't particularly impressive and the overall body of work called Warren is just so large, that disambiguation seems like the way to go. Just to make sure people notice, most entries at mass page views for Warren (name) are also relevant here. Warren (burrow) makes sense too. --Joy (talk) 11:07, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
followup to move
[edit]Cf. Talk:Warren#followup to move. --Joy (talk) 13:52, 17 November 2023 (UTC)