Talk:WPTD
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Split
[edit]All the information about WPTO should be split out into its own article. Sure, both stations are very much tied to each other, but it's a full-blown television station, not a relayer, and the programming isn't always the same, either, so it's notable enough that it deserves its own article. As it stands, this article is quite confusing because it tries to cover too much. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs, blog) 04:48, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
- If not split, shouldn't this be worded more like the article for WCET, such as "WPTO's master control operations are performed in ThinkTV's Dayton facilities." 99.23.127.117 (talk) 14:40, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
- I've made some changes to this article that I hope make things clearer, although no shorter. Since their merger in the 1970's, there hasn't really been a separate history for each of the stations. Back then, it was more akin to one station with two channels, now it's more like one mega-station with 8 or 10 subchannels, depending on how you look at it. It might make more sense to rename this article to "ThinkTV", but I'm new to editing Wiki, so I'm not sure if that's advisable or exactly what is involved.--Chaswmsday (talk) 08:56, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
WCET
[edit]Would it be a stretch to refer to WCET as another satellite of WPTD alongside WPTO? All three stations share master control facilities now. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 05:43, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- I think that WCET isn't really the same case. CET still exists alongside ThinkTV under the Public Media Connect umbrella. 48.1 has a lot of overlap with 16.1, since they are each the "mainstream PBS" outlet for their respective communities. WCET still largely serves Cincinnati only, while WPTD serves Dayton, and WPTO kinda-sorta serves Butler County and the Cin-Day region, Cincy, and barely Dayton. Maybe if Time Warner Cable hadn't backslid on its earlier plan to make 16 and subs available in Cincy, and 48 and subs available in Dayton, it would make more sense to turn this into a "Public Media Connect" page. 14, 16 and 48 aren't all simulcasts, like some states' statewide PBS networks, but neither are they fully independent of each other. Your thoughts?--Chaswmsday (talk) 08:56, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
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Split proposal
[edit]I propose that information about WPTO be split into a separate page called WPTO. The station is notable enough on its own, and new sources can be added. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 18:50, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
- Given that eventually WKTR-TV is going to occupy a lot of space in this article, I would support. If I do WPTD, WPTO could then call most of its text from this article via LST (a la WFXR/WWCW). Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:56, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Mvcg66b3r If it's a station that simulcast another station, but has some history by itself and completely separate from the parent station's history, it should have its own article. I support this proposal 100% . K-Johnson 127 (talk) 19:24, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
GA Review
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Nominator: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 17:33, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: BigChrisKenney (talk · contribs) 02:22, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Hello, @Sammi Brie: I will be reviewing this article as part of the January 2025 GAN Backlog drive. BigChrisKenney (talk) 02:22, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Intro
[edit]Good!
WKTR-TV
[edit]From here on, there are many invisible comments that have abbreviated days of the week. Could you explain why this is?
- They're a tool in PressPass, the indispensable processing utility for Newspapers.com clippings. That script has saved me an incalculable amount of time over the years. The idea is to help with day-of-week mentions, common in newspaper articles.
Construction and early years
[edit]I made some edits you should review.
ABC sale negotiations
[edit]I made some edits you should review.
Affiliation with ABC and bribery scandal
[edit]I made some edits you may wish to review.
Financial troubles and shutdown
[edit]I made some edits you may wish to review.
"...four months later, three television program syndicators filed seeking the placement of the business into involuntary bankruptcy."
- What did these three television program syndicators file? A lawsuit? A little clarification here would be good.
- Added "petition"
Public TV for Dayton
[edit]WOET-TV: An educational rescue
[edit]I made some edits you may wish to review.
In the last paragraph: "...first week of programs on WOET was plagued by issues because WCET, the ultimate off-air source for the programs, held a local pledge drive."
- WOET was plagued by issues because WCET held a local pledge drive? Is this correct? I checked the source (53) and I didn't see a clear answer there.
- Decided to excise this sentence.
Maturation
[edit]I broke up a long sentence, you may wish to review.
Into new studios
[edit]I made some edits you may wish to review.
ThinkTV: Collaboration and merger with WCET
[edit]I made some edits that you should review.
Sources
[edit]81 needs to be removed or replaced as the link rerouts to The Cincinnati Enquirer's main page
- Lateral fix to a Newspapers.com clipping that is the same source.
I checked every 5th source and some others as well. I only found the problem above.
Initial Assesment
[edit]Overall, a very detailed and thorough article about the history of the station. I will continue the review after you have reviewed my comments. BigChrisKenney (talk) 03:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @BigChrisKenney: Addressed your outstanding points. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Final Assessment
[edit]- It is reasonably well written.
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Congratulations on another GA! BigChrisKenney (talk) 00:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 21:24, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- ... that an Ohio TV station bribed ABC to obtain a network affiliation only to lose it within the year? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/dayton-daily-news-dayton-case-abc-aide/125912816/ and https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-journal-herald-switch-aug-31-wkef/125918720/
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC).
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