Talk:Voyage (ABBA album)

'Just A Notion' ABBA Single On Friday 22nd October 2021

'Just A Notion' will be the 3rd ABBA Single, from 'Voyage', on Friday 22nd October. It is much more lively than the 1978 Original. The 1978 Song, has been given more power and strength. That goes for both the Vocals, and the Instrumentation. Most of all it has a great sense of 'Fun' around it. It is ABBA at their best. 09:24, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

"Just a notion" and "Bumblebee"

The songs "Just a notion" and "Bumblebee" are mentioned in the track list, but as they have not have been commented, released or played in any form to the public, the fact that they are complete versions of the unfinished songs published in the box set Thank you for the music is just a matter of speculation. No source for this is mentioned in the text. Alejandroflopez (talk) 17:39, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

We, (ABBA Fans), have now been told, that the 'Voyage' Track - 'Bumblebee' - is not the 1978 Demo 'Free As A Bumblebee'. The 'Bumblebee' Song, is a 100% brand New Benny and Bjorn Song. Also, 'Just A Notion' has now been given a totally New Backing Track. So, it does not sound completely the same, as the 1978 Original version. Some ABBA Fans have been speculating, if there are any Instrumental Tracks, on 'Voyage'. With 'Ode To Freedom' being 'guessed' to be an Instrumental. It is not. The 'Voyage' Album contains no Instrumentals. All 10 Tracks have Vocals. 81.103.92.196 (talk) 17:03, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Japanese Edition

Too much focus.

Why give tracklisting for Gold Greatest Hits? Simply say Japanese versions include one with the GOLD album. Coachtripfan (talk) 08:08, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Given that track listing without an explanation is highly confusing if not misleading. It seems rather apparent that the Japenese edition is not the new album, but something different sold under the same name. Which actually might suggest it doesn't belong in this article on the album in the first place and certainly not without an explanation (not to mention that sourcing via Amazon isn't really up to sourcing standards either).--Kmhkmh (talk) 06:39, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

@Kmhkmh: Although I was not the editor who added these extra track listings in the first place and am not particularly fussed about them being present, it really was not confusing whatsoever—the headlines of these extra track listings were clearly marked "disc 2" and so on. It's a well-established practice in the music market, not just in Japan, to tack on extra discs including an artist's greatest hits with their new album. One version sold in Japan includes the ABBA Gold album, another Japanese version includes The Definitive Collection DVD and so on. It was not "something different sold under the same name". Also, technically, per MOS:ALBUM the extra discs don't even need sources—the liner notes/album itself is considered the source. Ss112 08:22, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

It might be to the normal reader (at least it was for me), who cannot be expected to know what might be common in Japan or with some labels. To me for instance it was at first glance not clear, that disc 1 was always supposed to be the original voxyage album, although I see your point that is clear if you rtake a closer look.

There is nothing wrong with pointing out, that in Japan the new album is bundled with additional discs, but we don't need the track listing for those additional discs (in this article). The track listing in this article imho should belong to this album and not various repackaging versions.--Kmhkmh (talk) 10:28, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

There used to be a way to have "drop down/hide" boxes for setlists on various tour pages. Maybe that could be used here so all readers don't have to read a track listing for Gold if it was restored here? I was hoping to bring this up more generally to the Wiki music community, but I don't know where to start. Does anyone have any ideas or thoughts on this? (Apologies for reviving an old discussion). Thanks!! EPBeatles (talk) 20:29, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Timings

These have appeared on various Abba fan sites. Gossip and speculation.

The tracklisting times have NOT been confirmed by any authoritative source. Apart from the 2 singles obviously. Coachtripfan (talk) 08:10, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Pre Order

Where is the claim for 111,000 UK Pre order sales? Not in the link.

The author of this topic is clueless Coachtripfan (talk) 21:06, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Please, no personal attacks. You can find it exactly here. TheCartoonEditor (talk) (contribs) 22:14, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

@Coachtripfan: courtesy ping that I forgot to add TheCartoonEditor (talk) (contribs) 12:03, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

The author of the Voyage (album) page

Uses timings of songs without any sources

Sales figures from only one source. We don't know how reliable it is

Lists the whole tracklisting of GOLD Greatest Hits just because a Japanese edition has one version of Voyage with a GOLD GH bonus disc

Asserts bumblebee song is an old recording when Fan Club says it isn't Coachtripfan (talk) 12:55, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

@Coachtripfan: Okay. Let me explain.

1. Again, No personal attacks. Specifically putting blame on one user is a personal attack.

2. There are other sources for this, by the way. here

3. inews has been reliable in the past for Adele information, and is generally reliable for fact-checking.

Please calm yourself down and allow us to have a good conversation. TheCartoonEditor (talk) (contribs) 18:15, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

"Calm yourself down" is a personal attack.

My criticism about 1. The timing of the songs is valid. No evidence or source or provided. We only know the length of the 3 released singles 2. Why highlight the Japanese edition with tracklistings from compilations/Dvds? Just give 10 tracklisting for global edition. Footnotes for international variations. 3. Ok there has been one or two sources about the pre-sale figures. But are they reliable? Coachtripfan (talk) 20:46, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Asking you to not personally attack people is a personal attack in it's ownright? I never knew.

I don't care about the timing of the singes or the Japanese edition. I am only talking about the 111,000 sales.

And yes, as I said, inews has been reliable in the past for ABBA information, and is generally reliable for other information, such as the new Adele record that the article mainly covers. Overall, I think it should be trusted with the pre-order sales. TheCartoonEditor (talk) (contribs) 01:18, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Btw, the story about pre-sales is in two articles but written by the same person - Adam Sherwin. MSN often pick up stories from newspapers. The Independent and I newspaper are frequently used. Coachtripfan (talk) 20:50, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for this information. I thought that the articles were extremely similar, but I didn't know the fact about MSN. I will use this information in the future wisely. TheCartoonEditor (talk) (contribs) 01:19, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Final album

Yes, I realize that the male members of the band have said this is it in an interview, which has been cited. But are they absolutely sure this time? Bluorangefyre (talk) 02:01, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Frida just said in an interview today to "not be too sure" that Voyage is the end & "never say never," & that's after Agnetha said "I don't dare to say [if a further reunion will happen] because it's a bit uncertain" in September, after Björn also said "never say never" in an interview with Benny last week, & after Benny literally changed his position in that same interview from his "this is it" position of last month to a new one of "if Benny & the ladies wanted to do more, then they could convince me." So, with all of that being said, perhaps it is not best for the article to, as it currently does, so clearly state that Voyage is the "final album," given that even the members of the band themselves are acting pretty fluid on on this matter. Brucejoel99 (talk) 04:00, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Agreed. Wikipedia is not a WP:CRYSTALBALL. 188.148.229.176 (talk) 22:43, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Track 3 Little things lead vocal Agnetha Faltskog

Track 3 Little things is Lead vocal Agnetha Faltskog StephenStoke (talk) 13:38, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

No it isn't. It is Frida Coachtripfan (talk) 20:58, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Scottish Chart

This is a component of the UK chart - like sales, streaming etc which are included.

Scotland is not an independent country. Its sales included in UK chart.

Exclude this Coachtripfan (talk) 21:00, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

It is not against Wikipedia's chart guidelines to include the Scottish chart. In some cases component charts are valid. If you don't think it should be included where the UK chart is, this is not the place to complain about what is already widespread practice of including it. Ss112 11:33, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

The first two singles were not a double A-Side but two individual releases with two different CD Singles available and listed seperately on the UK charts

I would say the two singles are clearly 'more' separate singles than a combined 'Double A'. Both exist in separate formats, with individual cover art. Discogs has two digital issues listed that combine the two tracks but one doesn't come with a valid download source. So that's just one combined release, compared to two for "Faith" and one for "Shut", separately. Only "Faith" has so far been released on 7", but Björn has stated that a 7" would be coming of "Shut" as well. If ABBA considered them a 'Double A', why did they release a 1-sided 7" and two 1-track CD singles? 'Double A' makes no sense. What comes to chart, both have charted on their own (along with all tracks from the album now), so defining what makes a 'single' by chart performance isn't very sensible these days. Also, ABBA particularly sell physical copies. Official site still has minimal info about the new releases, so that can't be used as a source. Although, obviously, all the physical formats are separate. When the new releases were announced (on Sept 2), they were referred to as two singles, released on the same day. Official Youtube pages for the two songs state 'Listen to two brand new songs', nothing about them being on the same single. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jopla2 (talk • contribs) 01:52, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

The cover art for "Don't Shut Me Down" only exists because it was issued as a separate CD single. Physical formats are not the primary format in 2021—I don't know why this is constantly being raised as if the way in which CD singles are issued in 2021 should have some bearing on everything else or take precedence over how the songs were distributed on the biggest digital distributor of streamed music in the world, Spotify.

"[B]oth have charted on their own". Yes? Since the download era charts have moved from being single-based to track-based. Did you really think two songs were going to chart as one entry in 2021? That doesn't mean songs aren't issued as double A-side singles anymore. Where on Earth are you getting the idea that calling the songs a double A-side is somehow based on their chart performance? That makes no sense at all. The only person basing their definition of a "single" on chart performance appears to be you, because your argument is "the songs charted separately so they're separate singles".

Not all sources stated that they were two separate singles. The Irish Independent, [https://www.scotsman.com/whats-on/arts-and-

entertainment/album-reviews-abba-damon-albarn-barrie-james-3444800 The Scotsman], Contactmusic, a HMV staff review, and Spotify's own press release all use the term "double A-side". If there were no sources saying this I wouldn't have used the term or been arguing for the article calling them a double A-side.

Finally, when you start new threads on a talk page, they should be placed at the bottom, not the top. Thank you. Ss112 11:46, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

'Dual' single might have appeared in some press release, but we have to consider what 'dual single' or 'Double A-side' single means. Here the description doesn't fit because all physical formats are separate. None combine the two. They are purely stand-alone singles, they are not Part I & II, and can't be bought as a set from official sources. There is no difference to the 3rd single Just A Notion either. The three are 'equal'. Also, consider you buy the 7" of ISHFIY. Are you not buying a single, a complete single? You are not buying one half of a single. Or if you buy the CD's of DSMD and JAN, do you then own 1.5 singles only? No, you own 2.

Officials site appears to have been updated just now:

https://abbasite.com/discography/

See bottom of page. There is no mention of any connection between ISHFIY and DSMD, or 'double A'. Both are described as 'single'.

Spotify isn't a distributor per se, like you say it's a streaming service. You cannot buy tracks there. Spotify has many release-like 'things', playlists, compilations that only exist is Spotify etc. Most aren't considered actual releases.

You ask: "Where on Earth are you getting the idea...?" What? Read again. I say exactly the opposite: "defining what makes a 'single' by chart performance isn't very sensible these days".

I did not place this thread where it is. The heading was already there, without any content below it. Jopla2 (talk) 19:00, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Again, physical formats are not the predominant format in 2021. If this were the 1990s or early 2000s, that argument would still matter. I don't see that it matters that something was able to be purchased versus streamed and you also see fit to argue over the semantics of calling Spotify a "distributor" versus a "streaming service". Who cares? As pointed out to you, it's not even just about how Spotify formatted the two songs onto one release. It's that multiple reliable sources called it a double A-side. You have conveniently chosen to ignore this. Wikipedia operates on what sources say.

Yes, you said "defining what makes a 'single' by chart performance isn't very sensible these days" despite the fact that was not part of my argument whatsoever. It was part of yours, because you then proceeded to contradict yourself by saying that because "I Still Have Faith in You" and "Don't Shut Me Down" charted separately that makes them separate singles. I can't have a discussion with somebody who doesn't understand what they themselves have just said, and I'm also done repeating myself. The only concession I will make is that the songs were released as separate singles physically. For all intents and purposes, they were still a double A-side single digitally (and as you can see in my reply to an IP editor below, I pointed out it was not just Spotify, but other streaming services too). Ss112 04:02, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

"Faith" and "Shut" were released as two separate singles, not as a double A side They each have their own physical releases, their own catalogue numbers, and reached different chart positions. Just because they were released on the same day does not mean they were a double A-side. Nor does the way Spotify promoted them. Spotify is ONE streaming service, not the entire music industry. On Amazon, for example, they were available to download separately and you paid for each song. "Notion" was therefore the third single, and "Little Things" will be the fourth. 213.205.240.130 (talk) 02:28, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Physical releases are not the predominant format in 2021, streaming is. On streaming services (not just Spotify) the songs were put together on the same single. Tidal, Deezer and Qobuz also did: Tidal, Deezer, Qobuz. Publications also called the releases a double A-side—see above, I linked them. (Also, I'm well aware that singles can be released at the same time and not be a double A-side. The songs being released at the same time is not why I'm calling them a double A-side.) Catalogue numbers are issued for every product. How is this an argument? Songs chart separately in 2021 because from the time of digital downloads, singles charts essentially became songs charts. No chart still has singles charting as products, but rather individual songs. This doesn't mean singles can't be double A-side singles in 2021. Do you honestly think double A-side singles means songs have to made part of one track? What logic are you operating under here? I've been through this with Jopla2 above. I'm not repeating the same things again. Ss112 04:02, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

It makes absolutely no difference whether physical releases are the predominant format anymore, the fact remains that these are two separate singles and were released that way. ABBA's own website even refers to them as such, so it's coming straight from the horse's mouth, as it were. To list these songs in the infobox as 1) I Still Have Faith/Don't Shut Me Down makes it appear that they were released as part of a double A-side. But "double A-side" is a term used for physical formats (where we would once have an A-side and a B-side). You're using a wikilink to "double A-side" (albeit calling it "dual single") and yet trying to claim that its not a relevant format anymore. It seems to me the consensus here is pretty clear. This is not a double-A side but simply two separate singles released on the same day. I don't have a problem with it being referred to as a "dual release" but it shouldn't be wikilinked to "double A-side" and the songs should be listed separately in the infobox rather than lumped together. As for which one goes first, I'd probably lean towards I Still Have Faith, since they seemed to give more prominence to that song by making a proper video for it and it was played first during their press announcement on 2 September 2021. 84.65.176.159 (talk) 11:40, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Do you think double A-side singles are exclusively a physical phenomenon? They're not. If they were, publications would not be using this term to refer to a digital release in 2021. You are conveniently ignoring the news sources that I linked above that called this a double A-side. The section of the Wikipedia article for A-side and B-side that focuses on double A-sides mostly being physical (when admittedly they were) does not mean the concept no longer exists or that songs cannot be a digital double A-side in 2021. It absolutely does matter that physical formats are no longer the predominant method through which the public consumes music, because unquestionably the main method the songs were listened to was digitally, and for all intents and purposes, the songs were released as part of a double A-side single online. They were not distributed online in any other way (excluding as part of the album). When the songs were issued before the album, they were put together as part of the same single listing. I concede the two were released as separate singles physically, but digitally, not at all. I think you are the same person as the below 213.205.240.130 changing IPs to make it look as if you're two different people, so no, there is no consensus. Regardless, this is not a formal consensus, which is what is needed, and changing the page before outside/uninvolved assessment as to whether a consensus has been achieved is disruptive. Ss112 14:00, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

I will reiterate: double A-side single here means they were put on the same single. One song is not less of a single than the other—they were each promoted as if they were a lone single, but put together on the same single digitally. In that respect, they are both singles and a double A-side single. I acknowledge ABBA's website has separate listings for both "I Still Have Faith in You" and "Don't Shut Me Down" and calls "Just a Notion" the third single, but I don't see both "Faith" and "Shut" being singles and a double A-side as mutually exclusive, and the website discography is primarily a listing of physical releases. As I've already acknowledged, "Faith" and "Shut" were absolutely released separately physically. I know this. I'm talking about what news sources say (ABBA itself is not a news source, though absolutely not something I'm trying to minimise or discount) and the main method the songs were consumed (which is digitally, where the singles were put together as one). Ss112 15:50, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

SS112, your argument about physical releases not being the predominant format might have more validity if these two songs were released solely as a digital release, but they werent. These two songs were released as separate singles, physically and digitally. When you stream ISHFIY by itself on Spotify, does that stream then automatically count towards accumulated streams of DSMD as well? Of course not, they're separate. 213.205.240.130 (talk) 12:27, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Except I've just provided four links proving the two songs were released on the same single digitally and news publications also backing this up by calling the songs a double A-side, which you have chosen to ignore. "Does that stream then automatically count towards accumulated streams of DSMD"... you are acting like I am denying that they are two separate songs. I'm saying they're not separate singles. Of course the stream for one song doesn't count towards another. What are you talking about? This does not make something not a double A-side. I believe you are the same IP editor as the above 84.65.176.159. Regardless, stop changing the page until consensus is established. One editor masquerading as two and both you and Jopla2 misunderstanding how double A-sides work in 2021 is not a consensus. I am asking for page protection since you apparently do not understand what consensus is, you keep changing IP addresses, and your changes at this point are disruptive. Ss112 14:00, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

These two songs were not released as a double A-side. They were released as physical singles, which could be bought from retailers like singles used to be, and also as separate digital download tracks. I have both CD singles, and they are one-track releases, each with their own cat no. and cover art, etc. In fact, "I Still Have Faith In You" also came out as a 7" vinyl single which was just that song. Double A-sides are a throwback to physical formats. There is no "A side" for streaming purposes, just a song (or songs) that are released. It doesn't matter whether a streaming service has given them some kind of closer proximity, ABBA's own store listed them as separate singles and sold them as such (as did all other retailers), and that trumps all other sources. ABBA have released double A-sides before, in the UK "Voulez-Vous" was a double A-side with "Angeleyes" back in 1979. That single comprised those two songs on one single, with one cat number and one sleeve with cover art. That's what a double A-side is. MassassiUK (talk) 22:48, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Again with the "separate digital download tracks"....nobody has disputed they are separate download tracks. I know they are. A digital double A-side does not mean that two songs would be fused into one track. Where is this assumption coming from? It's bizarre. You, like the other couple (or the same) editor(s) above, are conveniently ignoring that there are news sources calling them a double A-side. The two songs, on their release date ahead of the album, were put on the same single on every digital retailer. I linked these news sources and digital listings above. I will reiterate: I don't believe physical formats are persuasive in 2021 when hardly anybody bought these because somewhere close to 99% of consumption is streaming and downloading. As I said above, I've already acknowledged ABBA's website discography lists them separately, but I don't see both "Faith" and "Shut" being singles (as double A-side means they are both a single) and a double A-side as mutually exclusive, and the website discography is primarily a listing of physical releases (some of which were not released digitally). I also don't see the cat number/one cover art argument as persuasive. Even with double A-side singles in the physical era, there were still instances where double A-side singles were released as such in one country then released with only one song listed on the single in another, with a different cover artwork, for example "Say Goodbye / Love Ain't Gonna Wait for You" by S Club. "Say Goodbye" was released separately/as the main single in other countries. Even in instances where we can say "that was a double A-side", there are always exceptions for other markets and formats. Your "all other retailers" and "ABBA's website trumps all other sources" argument is related exclusively to physical formats because digitally this is not the case. Ss112 15:09, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

The idea that I Still Have Faith in You and Don't Shut Me Down is based on the view that of all the hundreds of thousands publications, in a handful, it says they are double A Sides. Have you ever thought they might be wrong? Following this logic you'd say the Earth is flat because some say it is. They were released separately as physical singles and digital songs. Simultaneous release but separate releases. 14:06, 8 March 2022 (UTC)14:06, 8 March 2022 (UTC)14:06, 8 March 2022 (UTC)~

Here is the EVIDENCE form a senior executive at ABBA's record company that the two songs, I Still Have Faith in You and Don't Shit Me Down were lead SINGLES. Note the plural. It goes on to talk about the success of the SINGLES. This was published in Music Week - more authoritative than publications citing dual single.

https://www.musicweek.com/labels/read/fantastic-voyage-polydor-on-the-second-coming-of-abba/084823 Coachtripfan (talk) 13:59, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

This Official Charts Company article, actually quoted in the references talks of DUAL SINGLES https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/abba-announce-their-first-studio-album-of-new-material-in-39-years-voyage-and-ground-breaking-concert-series__33932/ Coachtripfan (talk) 14:06, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Commercial performance

Can someone please add the information that ABBA sold over 1 million copies of Voyage within its first week of release, per this source: https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/abbas-first-new-studio-album-in-40-years-sold-in-excess-of-1m-combined-album-units-globally-in-its-first-week/#:~:text=According%20to%20Universal%20Music%20Group,million%20combined%20streams%20to%20date. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.116.6.235 (talk) 16:36, 24 November 2021 (UTC)tabruns2021 Tabruns2021 (talk • contribs) 17:11, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Number 1 in Greece

Voyage sails to #1 in Greece.

The link you have is for the current chart and it confirms this

Cheers 148.252.128.206 (talk) 12:57, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

 Done TheCartoonEditor (talk) (contribs) 14:14, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Danish cerification

Gold award in Denmark for 10,000 shipments

http://www.ifpi.dk/certificeringer-0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coachtripfan (talk • contribs) 14:41, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Someone else seems to have  Done it. --Muhandes (talk) 15:47, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Reviews

From specialist music magazines and a popular UK newspaper

https://retropopmagazine.com/abba-voyage-album-review/

https://superdeluxeedition.com/reviews/abbas-voyage-track-by-track/#:~:text=It's%20easy%20to%20mock%20a,before%20coming%20back%20around%20again.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/abbas-voyage-album-review-the-25382811 Coachtripfan (talk) 23:30, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Double Platinum Germany

400,000 sales

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1469332460647419910 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coachtripfan (talk • contribs) 16:02, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Platinum in UK

300,000 sales in UK

https://twitter.com/BRITs/status/1466790578608295945 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coachtripfan (talk • contribs) 16:11, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Uk SALES Voyage

331,000 as quoted in Music Week https://www.musicweek.com/labels/read/fantastic-voyage-polydor-on-the-second-coming-of-abba/084823 Coachtripfan (talk) 13:56, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Platinum in France

https://twitter.com/snep/status/1475397395534036993?t=lfFz94iZDKt_YxvgEAXdWA&s=19

100,000 sales equivalent Coachtripfan (talk) 11:01, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Here is the official link

https://snepmusique.com/les-certifications/ Coachtripfan (talk) 12:45, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Swedish certification

Swedish certification for double platinum is 80,000+ units not 60,000 units. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tabruns2021 (talk • contribs) 04:05, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

UK sales from Official Charts Company

400,000 chart sales 387,000 pure sales

https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/the-official-top-40-biggest-albums-of-2021__34858/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coachtripfan (talk • contribs) 15:08, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

No Doubt About It

This is NOT a single. It was only released to the radio for airplay.

Perhaps it needs to be labelled Promotional Single. 85.255.232.117 (talk) 14:10, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

The song has an official airplay add date from EarOne (see here). The singles criteria denotes that as the reason the song is a single. TheCartoonEditor_{(he/him/they)} (talk) (contribs) 14:37, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Global sales

2,050,000 for 2021

source: IFPI https://www.ifpi.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/IFPI_Global_Music_Report_2022-State_of_the_Industry.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coachtripfan (talk • contribs) 15:05, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

First 2 songs were SEPARATE SINGLES. EVIDENCE HERE

Here is the EVIDENCE form a senior executive at ABBA's record company that the two songs, I Still Have Faith in You and Don't Shit Me Down were lead SINGLES. Note the plural. It goes on to talk about the success of the SINGLES. This was published in Music Week - more authoritative than publications citing dual single. Actuallly, these references now deleted!

https://www.musicweek.com/labels/read/fantastic-voyage-polydor-on-the-second-coming-of-abba/084823

This Official Charts Company article, actually quoted in the references talks of DUAL SINGLES https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/abba-announce-their-first-studio-album-of-new-material-in-39-years-voyage-and-ground-breaking-concert-series__33932/ Coachtripfan (talk) 15:34, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Ode to freedom

Track 10 Ode to Freedom lead vocal Anni Frid Lyngstad StephenStoke (talk) 13:23, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

UK Sales

474, 955 sales

https://www.musicweek.com/labels/read/one-year-on-how-avatar-concert-abba-voyage-is-powering-the-group-s-classic-catalogue/088129 Coachtripfan (talk) 14:06, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Regarding instrument credits - guitar

Hello all, I had a question about the credits for Bjorn and Benny's instruments on this album. I don't recall seeing Bjorn credited anywhere in the liner notes for guitar (on my CD at least), and I find it strange that Benny isn't credited with synth bass (not that we can fix the latter without official confirmation, I just think it's strange). I'd be curious to hear others' thoughts about this. Thanks!! EPBeatles (talk) 20:27, 29 November 2023 (UTC)