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Visa's for Syrian's
[edit]Syria will need a visa since jan/2016 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.42.182.27 (talk) 08:21, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Russia should be added
[edit]after May 12,2010 there wont be any visa requirements for russian citizens for turkey and turkish citizens for russia Maverick16 (talk) 19:53, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Agreement signed, but not in force yet, pending ratification by the countries' parliaments. And that will probably be in 2011. --Ozguroot (talk) 06:56, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Russia should be deleted
[edit]Russia, as Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs mentions on its web page, still requires visa from regular passport holders. It's been quite while now and we still don't know when Russian authorities will implement this agreement. Russia should not be green in the map, as it doesn't reflect the facts and can cause inconveniences. Baloglu (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:54, 7 December 2010 (UTC).
Armenia is green
[edit]There is no agreement between armenian and turkey about visa free. But on the map it shows as green. If there is an agreement please show a refference.Maverick16 (talk) 14:28, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
- As it writes on the article page, green color means "Visa free or visa issued upon arrival". And Turkish citizens can get their visa upon arrival in Armenia. --Ozguroot (talk) 14:48, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
discussion points
[edit]I made a couple of changes to the wiki which were reverted. I am not understanding fully for which reasons, and -since it were several reasons- I am not sure if they would all apply. Could someone (Ozguroot, anyone else?) help me out and/or point to the rel. place on Talk:passport, because the archives are huge?
- I placed a references-needed-tag. As it is not clear what refs come from what souce
- I removed editorial comments (often updated etc) from the text, which are to me against WP:NOTAGUIDE
- I improved the andorra entry (not a schengen member, no visa for any country, included a ref)
- changed the image of the countries for the non-implemented countries... Implementation sometimes takes ages, why add it now?
- I placed the Schengen countries under 1 flag for maintainability.
For the latter, I can imagine it is a matter of taste, but the others are pretty uncontroversial I'd sayL.tak (talk) 01:06, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hello L.tak, and thank you for your suggestions. First of all, "Schengen Area" is not a valid "Country" value to be listed under the "Country" title, in the tables there. Also, there is NOT a singular rule for Turkish passport holders, for travelling the Schengen area. It depends. For instance, Hungary (a Schengen member) offers a one month visa-free access (>=Special passports), but an another Schengen member country, Germany for example, gives a 3 months of visa-free access. Therefore, we cannot list all those countries into a single "line". Also, listing them separately is much simplier for the article readers. Does everyone really know/memorize all "Schengen" countries, what does it include and what it does not? Not very likely.
Yep, the editorial comments are gone now. Thanks. Yes, but you reverted the map and Indonesia (VOA implementation is already in force) disappeared. I'll manage that soon. I'm currently implementing a "References" list. Many thanks once again, Best Wishes & Regards. --Ozguroot (talk) 04:22, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- He Ozguroot, thanks for the detailed reply here. Let me give some reaction to that.
- As for Schengen: Fair enough, there are good reasons not to put it under one flag, which you mentioned. Two things however need attention: i) I think we should make clear that a visum to Italy also allows entry to the rest of the zone; I suggest to construct a note to that effect... ii)the 1 month for Hungary we should check with the EU-diplomatic/special passport list and regulations as I am not sure it is allowed within the new rules. I know countries have the right to choose for which countries non-ordinary visa are required, but thought the 90 days term was a requirement after April 2010. I will check...
- guide-book style... I thought there was still something in it, and changed a bit to improve the text if you like; but I think it is not good to use update dates and text like "warning".
- refs. I made a start now; I don't think we need to source every entry, but can do only by stating where the info comes from ("unless mentioned otherwise"). But then it should be either MFA or Delta (with the other one mentioned if in conflict, or if info is only there etc)...
- Andorra: I will implement the ref again tonight (I suppose that is ok for you?)
- Image: I was not aware of implementation in Indonesia. If it is the case, it should indeed be included it in the map. The not-yet-implemented states could also be in light-green to indicate that implementation is likely...
Rgds! L.tak (talk) 11:56, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Dear L.tak, many thanks for the detailed replies, and I thank you once again for your valuable effort, references and modifications. Best wishes & Regards. --Ozguroot (talk) 07:24, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
- He Ozuroot, no problem! Quite a detailed list which (although it was unsourced) seemed to be highly correct; for which I guess much of the honours go to you ;-)... L.tak (talk) 08:04, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
visa free image
[edit]Today, a couple of times a new image has been added with visa-free and visa-on-arrival separated. This gives the page much more information graphically, so I suggest to keep it. Stylistically there might be things to wish. I personally would have the legend removed (low resolution text) and add a legend manually. Furthermore Ozguroot seems to prefer a different colour scheme. Let's work that out here! L.tak (talk) 20:38, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Japan
[edit]The current non-biometric passports of Turkey are in use until 2015 November. From before of the transition to biometric passports had their passports extended until 2015 November so they will be in use.
I just changed machine-readable to biometric. Azizkayihan (talk) 12:29, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
South Africa
[edit]according to South African foreign ministry website, it's visa-free for TR citizens. Camoka4 (talk) 20:54, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Ukraine
[edit]Turkey and Ukraine mutually abolished visa regime for touristic purposes. (http://kiev.emb.mfa.gov.tr/ShowAnnouncement.aspx?ID=153779)Camoka4 (talk) 15:37, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Panama
[edit]Panama is not visa free on the map. This should be corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ardagul87 (talk • contribs) 18:43, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
- Panama corrected on the map as visa free.--Camoka4 (talk) 18:59, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
Peru
[edit]The visa exemption agreement which was signed on 2012-06-18 between Peruvian and Turkish governments has been ratified by both sides. I've changed the table accordingly, and added a reference link as well. However, it should also be reflected on the map. Zdlo (talk) 11:39, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
done as ref per se--Ali.carik (talk) 13:43, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
Gambia
[edit]Change, here. --E4024 (talk) 22:30, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
South Sudan / Update please
[edit]Not required any more for holders of diplomatic passports. See Resmi Gazete, 22.12.12. --E4024 (talk) 22:46, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Regular-Ordinary
[edit]Without any detriment to whatever is the English common name for this, I have a doubt about the English translation of what we call "Umuma Mahsus Pasaport" in Turkish. In this article we have used the word "regular" but that sounds to me like a qualification of "being in order" (not expired, has the correct seal and signature etc). I think the word "ordinary" is better to separate these passports from the Diplomatic, Service and Special Passports. What do you think? --E4024 (talk) 19:53, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Moldova on the map
[edit]Moldova and Turkey signed a visa-free regime agreement but it's not in force yet. I understand some peoples enthusiasm but you can't put it on the map as it's already in effect. This page is to provide true information to people who actually follow up the updates concerning the issue. My point being is can someone change the map and remove Moldova from the visa-free section until it actually is visa-free...Ardagul87 (talk) 11:37, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Pending Visa Agreements
[edit]Turkey signed visa exemption agreements with Mongolia, Belarus and Moldova in the past few months but non of them are put in force yet. Belarus on the other hand is coloured as if it already is visa-free on the map even though it isn't. I understand the enthusiasm of some people but obviously this is misleading and should be changed immediately.Ardagul87 (talk) 08:30, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
Peru
[edit]Peru definitely requires visa from Turkish citizens, regardless of the number of days that will be spent in Peru. This is from personal experience. Peru should be taken out of the category of "visa free" on the map.
Peru visa will be removed on 12 June 2013. Emresunay (talk) 13:43, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
Mongolia
[edit]Mongolia should be added from 11th of April onwards as per (http://www.mfa.gov.tr/no_-112_-11-april-2014_-press-release-regarding-the-entry-into-force-of-the-visa-exemption-agreement-between-turkey-and-mongol.en.mfa)
The visa free regime officially in force today. This should be reflected in the MAP aswell. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.32.14.30 (talk) 12:36, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Waiting since July
[edit]OK I have worked hard to update all information in this article back in July only for my edits to be reverted by users KazekageTR and Ozguroot. The issue is most of the countries don't have direct references, plenty of data is wrong and all mostly due to the fact the article was last properly updated four years ago, hence many dead links etc. Anyway I fixed all of that, however I slightly changed the format and those two editors preferred this format. I would have expected them to go on and update the article, fix all the issues, so I added maintenance tags where necessary. But it seems their input energy didn't go far from that revert - practically nothing has been done since July. So I presume these editors never even had any real will to update this article. Unless this changes in the next week or two, unless this mess of an article is fixed, I will revert back to the fixed updated version and the fact you don't like the format won't bother me much as you don't seem to be bothered with the current state of article standing for months which is IMO far worse. Thank you.--Twofortnights (talk) 13:15, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
- OK so definitely no one is interested in fixing the article, even though there were many great promises here. I will go ahead and restore the version that is at least factually correct.--Twofortnights (talk) 11:24, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
- Indeed it's not helpful to just revert without clarifying which part of the extensive edits of Twofortnights are not appreciated. user:Ozguroot could you expand a bit on what is bothering you and see whether a compromise is possible? L.tak (talk) 20:12, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Syria
[edit]syria needs visa since jan-2016 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.42.182.27 (talk) 08:22, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Why is Syria included in the list, when the map clearly shows Syria in grey? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.127.32.45 (talk) 15:43, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
Russia 1 Jan 2016
[edit]Visa-free regime will be suspended. Not 'abolished'. See the difference, geniuses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.156.126.38 (talk) 00:49, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
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Angola
[edit]According to this source there's a visa-free agreement between Angola and Turkey now, but I couldn't find English sources confirming the information: https://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/siyaset/angola-ve-turkiye-arasinda-vize-anlasmasi-1877379 A455bcd9 (talk) 16:35, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Visa requirements for Turkish citizens
[edit]I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Visa requirements for Turkish citizens's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "index":
- From Travel requirements for French citizens: "Compare Passports Power Passport Index 2022". passportindex.org. Retrieved 2 November 2022.
- From Travel requirements for German citizens: "Compare Passports Power Passport Index 2022". passportindex.org. Retrieved 2 November 2022.
- From Oman: "Global Slavery Index findings". globalslaveryindex.com. 2014. Retrieved 29 December 2014.
- From Kuwait: "Cultural developments in Kuwait". March 2013. Archived from the original on 24 February 2018. Retrieved 27 May 2017.
- From Croatia: "Press Freedom Index 2019". Reporters Without Borders. Retrieved 10 September 2019.
Reference named "Russia":
- From Travel requirements for French citizens: "Electronic visa / Consular department of MFA of Russia". kdmid.ru. Retrieved 1 January 2021.
- From Visa requirements for Italian citizens: "Russian Federation Country Specific Information – Entry/Exit Requirements for U.S. Citizens". Bureau of Consular Affairs, U.S. Department of State. Retrieved 5 November 2015.
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