Talk:Violet Vector and the Lovely Lovelies

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Cont'd from AfD

Mfl, I don't think blogs, no matter where they are, have much authority. The New York Times has a blog too--standards are simply lower and expectations are less. That's why they're blogs. I hadn't looked at those magazines because they weren't listed in the article, and my subscription to those magazines ran out. However, and here's a note on verifiability, if those magazines would be cited, and the citation looks alright, I'll take you on your word. Now, the lack of a hair salon actually helps there: boring old drudges like me are more likely to believe you and take you seriously if you write, well, boring. Believe me--I'm working on a work evaluation, and my boss told me to take out all the jokes (I had some really good ones).

So bring in those articles, cite from them, give a proper reference (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners, and then Wikipedia:Template_messages/Sources_of_articles/Citation_quick_reference). But simply mentioning that those magazines say that this or that band is hot shit won't convince many people: place it in a context, just like in the research paper in freshman comp-I'm sure they teach that too at UNC ;) Cite! Unless, of course, the mention of VV isn't all that major...

In short: if (IF!) those magazine articles are about VV (not just mentioning the band in passing), and there's the article from the Newsobserver (the first, not the second--that's not enough by itself), and that Indy blog, then I think the article will stand (you understand, I, nor any other individual, makes these decisions). Does that help? We're all on the same team here, and I'll be glad to help. Though I think I like my music a bit louder than what VV has to offer. Drmies (talk) 04:28, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, my interests in music aren't as limited as they might seem; You have helped me realize I need a more unbiased and objective writing style for an encyclopedia entry. Honestly, this has helped me grow as a writer as well, a student ever learning. Is there any time limit for me to do this? I have exams right now. Will the article be cleared in the interim until I have these magazine articles to add to it? Mfleader 24:07 02 December 2008 (Eastern Time)

(look at the edit page, see what those colons do: they indent for a more clear layout) Hey, I wasn't knocking your taste. Writing encyclopedia entries is a new thing for a lot of people, including me (until a couple of months ago). I often enough edit articles for bands whose music and politics I can't stand, to be honest. I might get VV's CD when it comes out, it should be great for pool parties. Of course, I'll need a pool.

No, I don't think you need to get this done in the next day or even the next couple of weeks. I think (though again, I don't call the shots, this is just a prediction) that the article will survive AfD, also because you're really working on it (hard work sometimes does pay off...). So don't worry; get your hands on those articles (I don't think I can get them through my library, but maybe through ILL) and see what you can do with them. Like with your term papers: if something LOOKS impressive, it might just be impressive enough. (Can you tell I teach English?) Good luck on your finals. Drmies (talk) 16:06, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]