Talk:Vimeo/Archive 1
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Untitled
It doesn't even have a full-screen mode! 144.133.74.239 14:37, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Relationship to google? You can access videos of vimeo via video.google.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.135.67.127 (talk) 04:26, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Moved from article
== Technology == Vimeo uses the [[Amazon S3]] service to store the video content and the [[Amazon_Elastic_Compute_Cloud|Amazon EC2]] to convert the uploaded videos into [[Adobe_Flash|Flash]] movies for the embedded player. Users have the ability to download their originally uploaded videos directly from [[Amazon_S3|S3]].
I removed this as the Vimeo blog states that they use thier own servers for hosting and encoding, with no mention of S3 or EC2. The above needs referencing before being put back into the article. Dan100 (Talk) 11:38, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- S3 portion confirmed: [1] --Jack Zhang (talk) 07:13, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Polemics
I feel the Polemics section is negatively biased and while many popular websites have "sketchy" terms of service, no other article show this section. I suggest it be removed --Ncusa367 (talk) 21:12, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
- I agree. Every video website I looked at has similar terms, and this paragraph makes such an essential business protection seem terrifying and malicious. --Jamiew (talk) 15:48, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- I agree that the Polemics section can be removed.Freiwilliger (talk) 08:12, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
- I put back the polemics section under the "terms of service" title. Most people don't realize they are leaving their rights to vimeo when uploading a file, you have to dig into the unreadable terms of service to figure that out. emphasis should be done on this, and wikipedia is exactly the right place for this, and this should be also there for other similars popular websites (youtube) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.99.199.172 (talk) 18:58, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
TOS
Regarding the current edit war about the TOS, it clearly states that (emphasis added):
- "For any Submission that is a video, the licenses granted by you herein shall terminate within a commercially reasonable time after you remove or delete such Submission from the Site. You understand and agree, however, that VIMEO may retain (but not display, distribute, or perform) server copies of Submissions that have been removed or deleted, and that VIMEO shall have no obligation to attempt to remove from distribution any of your Submissions that are videos that are otherwise publicly available through the Internet or other publicly accessible medium.
So, 84.99.199.172 (talk · contribs), please stop pushing for your POV on the issue. --ZimZalaBim talk 20:03, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- this is not my POV, this is vimeo TOS, and I don't see then why the section 'Gaming videos deletion' should be there.
it means it's important for someone that read the article that vimeo does not authorize upload of video games video, but it's not important to know that when you upload a video, you give to vimeo so much more than your video ? it makes no sense to me.
and when vimeo state that the lincense granted shall terminate within a commercially reasonable time , reasonable means nothing. someone could argue that 20 years is reasonable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.99.199.172 (talk) 20:29, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- The point here is that if Viemo's TOS are indeed unfair you need to prove it using third party reliable sources. If no such source exists then your comments on this issue don't belong to Wikipedia, no matter how right you are. See in particular the first line of Wikipedia:Verifiability - "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth" Laurent (talk) 22:14, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- After making some research : google 'vimeo terms of service', we can see that this TOS issue is something that vimeo users are taking seriously, as the previously known facebook TOS issue (that is mentionned on the facebook wikipedia article, criticism section). I believe this should be mentioned in the wikipedia article. this is not my POV, so if nobody has objections, I will add a paragraph on this.
- Please can you provide the sources you've found? Note that forums, blog entries and in general self published content cannot be used as sources. Laurent (talk) 10:24, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
10% in HD
I found a source for the un-cited "10% in HD"
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/09/17/vimeo-now-hosting-one-million-videos-10-in-hd —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.171.0.140 (talk) 02:12, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
This one is better: http://vimeo.com/blog:152 Somebody please implement this, I don't understand all that crazy ass formating. Pyxzer (talk) 18:37, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
"video-centric social networking site"?
Vimeo is more similar to YouTube than Facebook or MySpace. We refer to the former as a "video-sharing website" and the latter as "social networking" websites, and I plan to change the lead sentence if there are no objections otherwise. --Jamiew (talk) 17:56, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Vimeo wasn't the first video sharing site to support High Definition.
"On October 9, 2007, Vimeo announced support for High Definition playback in 1280x720 (720p), becoming the first video sharing site to support consumer HD." I'm pretty sure Stage6 allowed 1080p HD in 2006, which is why the site was so mind blowing for its day Hammerfrog (talk) 08:21, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
Banned countries
Vimeo is banned only for 2 days in Turkey. It is available now. --Heamsi (talk) 01:17, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Is Vimeo still banned in China? Unlike Youtube which seems always to be banned, the situation regarding Vimeo seems to vary DigHK (talk) 20:51, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Vimeo is available in (at least)Shenyang and Dalian(I haven't tried in other cities).--Kaileeslight (talk) 13:41, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
What does the documentary have to do with this?
Talking about Vimeo being banned in Indonesia, the article says, "The ban came at a moment when films made in Indonesia had begun to attract attention on the world stage, with Joshua Oppenheimer’s The Act of Killing joining the ranks of the most acclaimed documentaries of all time."
What's the relevance of that statement to Vimeo being banned? I'm sure that many other things happened in the world--and in Indonesia--at that time; why is this one significant? Is the statement meant (as I suspect) to raise some sort of irony? To get the readers to think the "right" way about the ban? If so, I don't think it belongs in Wikipedia. Uporządnicki (talk) 21:26, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Typo?
"As 22 July 22, 2010, the site offers unlimited HD embeds.[21]" appears to be a typo. Should it be "As of July 22, 2010, the site offers unlimited HD embeds.[21]"? Espensj (talk) 05:43, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
Inaccurate information regarding Vimeo's premium packages
"In July 2006, Vimeo Plus launched for $44.95/year. It featured 250 MB of disk space weekly."
I don't know where this information was sourced from but it is incorrect. I have worked at Vimeo for 9 years starting in 2007 and there were no paid membership packages at all at that time. The first offering of a paid membership (Vimeo Plus) wasn't until October of 2008. https://vimeo.com/blog/post/presenting-vimeo-plus — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sockyunghong (talk • contribs) 23:30, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Vimeo quality settings
This will be moved to the main page shortly.
Playback setting | Video resolution | Video bitrate | Audio bitrate |
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360p | 640x360 | 0.5 Mbit/s | 128 kbit/s |
540p | 940x540 | 1.5 Mbit/s | 256 kbit/s |
720p | 1280x720 | 2.5 Mbit/s | |
1080p | 1920x1080 | 5 Mbit/s | |
2K | 2720x1440 | 7 Mbit/s | |
4K | 4096×2160 | 18 Mbit/s |
--LABcrabs (talk) 08:26, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
«Disk space» ?
«..limited to 20 MB of disk space weekly..» What does disk space weekly mean? KjellG (talk) 20:29, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
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History: Request to remove poorly sourced text and change subsection heading
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Hello, my name is Jordan and I work for Vimeo. I'm here on the company's behalf to submit requests for improving the Wikipedia article, which is quite outdated and has bad sources used throughout. Per Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, I will share requests here instead of updating the page myself. Thanks to editors in advance for any help. First, I'd like to request removal of the following sentences in the "History" section, which are sourced by Vimeo's blog/website and TourKick.
- On July 21, 2008, Vimeo announced it would cease hosting gaming videos. Vimeo cited several reasons, such as the unusually long duration of gaming videos, which compromised transcoder wait times. (Existing gaming videos that had been posted on the site were deleted on September 1, 2008.) The ban was lifted, however, in October 2014.[1] Until then, all new uploads were subject to the rule, but machinima videos with a story of their own were still permitted.[2]
- In 2010, Vimeo introduced their equivalent of YouTube XL, named “Couch Mode”.[3]
References
- ^ Whitman, Blake (July 21, 2008). "New upload rules". Vimeo Staff blog. Retrieved August 10, 2011.
- ^ "Community Guidelines". Vimeo. Retrieved January 1, 2012.
- ^ TourKick.com article about announcements of Vimeo CouchMode and YouTube Leanback.
I also suggest removing the "Early history" and "Recent history" headings. The section is not very long and this separation seems unnecessary. If editors think some organization is helpful, would a subsection called "Acquisitions" be more appropriate? If so, could someone group these claims together?
There are many other ways to improve sourcing in the current page, but my hope is to keep my first request simple and not to seek too much change at once. I welcome feedback and questions here or my talk page. Thank you! JS Vimeo (talk) 18:31, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- I'm finding some much better sources to work on the back history (and actually stuff I was looking for to help back our article on YouTube as well (sorry), it is in progress, but wanted to let you know. --Masem (t) 17:41, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- @JS Vimeo: so keeping in mind the concerns, you'll see I've drastically changed the article to greatly expand on the history as best as I can sort through it from 3rd party sources which I hope appears accurate. Note that this does point out a bit of a roadbump as the company transitioned more fully under IAC and the leaving of its founders (but which is well documented via CollegeHumor side), and which I found more ways to document how its transitioned to SaaS rather that video sharing. I am sure there's more to be added but I think this is fair. --Masem (t) 21:53, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Masem: Thank you for reviewing this request and updating the article. I will review your changes. In the meantime, I see someone added some unsourced and inaccurate content about India to the top of the page. I'd like to request its removal, given it's entirely unsourced and not verifiable. Thanks again! JS Vimeo (talk) 15:22, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, that India section is gone. No sourcing and no way I can confirm anything. --Masem (t) 15:32, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Masem: Thank you for reviewing this request and updating the article. I will review your changes. In the meantime, I see someone added some unsourced and inaccurate content about India to the top of the page. I'd like to request its removal, given it's entirely unsourced and not verifiable. Thanks again! JS Vimeo (talk) 15:22, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Masem: Thank you! Looking closer at the article, the history section is greatly improved since the last time I checked, so thanks again for your help. For the "Developing high-definitely content delivery (2009–2017)" section (I think you meant high-definition?), HD video is still something Vimeo supports and continuously works to improve, so the dates seem arbitrary. If we keep this as a content delivery section, I would think it would be worth nothing that Vimeo also rolled out support for HDR in 2018 (source) and adopted AV1 last year (source). What do you think? JS Vimeo (talk) 17:43, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- Those look like reasonable sources to use, and I will add shortly... --Masem (t) 17:46, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Masem: Thank you! Looking closer at the article, the history section is greatly improved since the last time I checked, so thanks again for your help. For the "Developing high-definitely content delivery (2009–2017)" section (I think you meant high-definition?), HD video is still something Vimeo supports and continuously works to improve, so the dates seem arbitrary. If we keep this as a content delivery section, I would think it would be worth nothing that Vimeo also rolled out support for HDR in 2018 (source) and adopted AV1 last year (source). What do you think? JS Vimeo (talk) 17:43, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Masem: Thanks again for your recent updates. For the most part I think they are great! There is one line that I'm not sure about: "In contrast with other video-sharing sites, Vimeo does not rely on advertising from viewers for revenue; what ads it offers are typical web banner-style ads rather than video ads forced into the video stream. Instead, Vimeo sells its curated services to content creators for revenue." Vimeo is an ad-free platform, meaning we don't make ANY revenue from ads, and there are no banner-style ads on our site. We also don't sell curated services to content creators. We offer subscription tiers that our members pay for and, the higher the tier, the more tools/services they can unlock. We have a team that curates videos uploaded to our platform (Vimeo staff picks) but that is not a paid service. Does this help? JS Vimeo (talk) 16:52, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- I fixed that about the ads (as being ad-free), as an immediate change. --Masem (t) 18:13, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Masem: Thanks again for your recent updates. For the most part I think they are great! There is one line that I'm not sure about: "In contrast with other video-sharing sites, Vimeo does not rely on advertising from viewers for revenue; what ads it offers are typical web banner-style ads rather than video ads forced into the video stream. Instead, Vimeo sells its curated services to content creators for revenue." Vimeo is an ad-free platform, meaning we don't make ANY revenue from ads, and there are no banner-style ads on our site. We also don't sell curated services to content creators. We offer subscription tiers that our members pay for and, the higher the tier, the more tools/services they can unlock. We have a team that curates videos uploaded to our platform (Vimeo staff picks) but that is not a paid service. Does this help? JS Vimeo (talk) 16:52, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Products
I noticed there's mention of Vimeo Enterprise and Vimeo Stock, but not a few of the company's other products. Here are some additional sources to consider when making further improvements:
- review tools, 2017 (VentureBeat)
- Vimeo Live, 2017 (Digital Trends, Fortune, TechCrunch, The Verge)
- video pro marketplace, 2019 (Digital Trends, Variety)
- Vimeo Create, 2020 (TechCrunch, VentureBeat)
@Masem: Would you be interested in incorporating these sources into the article as well? I appreciate editors want to avoid promotional content as much as possible. I understand if you prefer to update the page yourself, but I'm also willing to draft some text based on these sources if you'd prefer. I believe all the sources are acceptable from a Wikipedia perspective. If you've already used some of them, sorry, I am still reviewing the article in detail and I'm just trying to be helpful.
Also, do you think a separate section specifically focused on offerings (or products) would be helpful? Thanks for your continued assistance. JS Vimeo (talk) 16:52, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- Let me figure out something. We clearly don't want to plop down a services list (that's too business/promotional like), but I think we want to be clear how this is part of how Vimeo is making revenue in constrast to not offering ads (tying to the above). --Masem (t) 18:10, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Masem: Thanks! I understand and look forward to seeing your updates to the article. JS Vimeo (talk) 21:46, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, so I've got these added or clarified. Review tools I've added near the part about in the history about becoming the Switzerland of video sites. Vimeo Live was sorta there but I made it clearer. The pro marketplace I added under the revenue model as the articles clearly point it as a means to draw users but not a revenue itself. And I fixed up the part on Magisto to get the Vimeo Create in there now. --Masem (t) 00:17, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Masem: Thanks! I understand and look forward to seeing your updates to the article. JS Vimeo (talk) 21:46, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Masem: Thanks again! JS Vimeo (talk) 23:54, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Vimeo Festival + Awards, Staff Picks
For my next request, I propose adding a brief mention of the annual Vimeo Festival + Awards and Staff Picks:
- The Vimeo Festival + Awards were first presented in 2011 and recognize original short films in a variety of categories.[1][2] The inaugural event received 6,500 submissions. In 2012, 14,500 films were entered for consideration, and judges included Aziz Ansari, James Franco, Colin Greenwood, and Edgar Wright.[3]
- Vimeo's Staff Picks section was launched in 2008 to recognize some of the site's best work.[4] In 2020, Vimeo invited previous Staff Picks recipients to create videos about their favorite small business owners and the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic as part of its Stories in Place program.[5]
I consider these claims brief and neutral, based on reputable journalistic publications. Thanks! JS Vimeo (talk) 23:54, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Calling DIY Video Makers: Vimeo Festival + Awards Rides Again". Wired. December 13, 2011. Retrieved May 20, 2020.
- ^ O'Neill, Megan (December 13, 2011). "Submissions Now Open For 2nd Vimeo Festival + Awards, $25,000 Grand Prize". Adweek. Retrieved May 20, 2020.
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(help) - ^ Ludwig, Sean (April 26, 2012). "Vimeo's Festival + Awards reveals how it is intensely embracing past and future". VentureBeat. Retrieved May 20, 2020.
- ^ O'Falt, Chris (March 19, 2014). "How Vimeo's Staff Picks Became the Next Great Talent Finder". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved May 21, 2020.
- ^ Zelaya, Ian (April 30, 2020). "Vimeo Gives 8 Filmmakers Grants to Tell the Stories of Resilient Small Businesses". Adweek. Retrieved May 21, 2020.
- @Masem: I am back from the holiday weekend and wondering if you might be willing to help with this request as well. Thanks! JS Vimeo (talk) 22:04, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- @JS Vimeo: I've added these though with some other wording and additional sources, but otherwise these seem good. --Masem (t) 22:27, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Statistics
@Masem: Thanks again for your help above. I was hoping you might be able to update some numbers in the "Customer size" section. This IAC source confirms 1.3 million paid subscribers and this New York Times article confirms we're now at 175 million members. Thank you! JS Vimeo (talk) 17:24, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
- @JS Vimeo: I'm a bit hesitant to use the internal IAC report given this being just a bit potential COI (I can't easily search to get to that), but I can easily find 1.2M sub numbers from a few months ago, which should be fine. The NYTimes story is fine. Also please note for neutrality purposes while searching I saw that there was that biometrics lawsuit pending against Vimeo which I had to include (but included Vimoe's statement why they aren't violating the law).
Vimeo OTT, BIPA
@Masem: Thanks again for your previous help. I am back with a couple additional requests, if you're willing to review.
1. First, I'm wondering if the page can mention Vimeo OTT, which is one of Vimeo's Enterprise-level services:
- This source says, "Vimeo OTT is a service that allows creatives to create subscription-based video channels online or in apps, and adding live content to it is a direct result of Vimeo’s acquisition of Livestream less than six months ago. Vimeo says the expansion will allow apps and websites using the service to add 4K live-streams using existing hardware and software. The change means businesses and organizations using Vimeo OTT will now be able to live-stream anything from sports games to yoga classes and church services."
- This source says, "The documentary is distributed through Vimeo OTT, a streaming service that allows users to launch their own video subscription channels. Each station can have its own landing page for rentals that listeners can access."
I'm open to your preferred wording, and I imagine there are other sources you could use as well. Also, would you please consider adding mention of the company's enterprise offering to the opening paragraph, since enterprise customers are the fastest-growing segment?
2. In Vimeo#Legal_cases, I'm hoping you can add Vimeo's response to the Biometric lawsuit: "Determining whether an area represents a human face or a volleyball does not equate to 'facial recognition,' and Magisto neither collects nor retains any facial information capable of recognizing an individual.", per this source.
Thanks again for your assistance! JS Vimeo (talk) 15:09, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
Introduction
Hello, this is Jordan. I'm back on behalf of Vimeo to submit requests for improving the Wikipedia article. I will continue to post requests here instead of making any updates myself, per Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Thank you, editors, for your help.
I'd like to propose the following change and addition to the first paragraph in the "Introduction" section, in order to more accurately reflect Vimeo's operations.
The first is to change the description of Vimeo as an "American video hosting... platform" to "global video hosting, sharing, and services platform." "American" implies that our services are only available in the U.S. "Global" is a more accurate description of where we operate, so this change is inline with making Wikipedia as accurate as possible.
Second, I'd like to suggest adding "businesses and" to the second sentence of the introductory paragraph so it reads "Vimeo operates on an ad-free basis, and instead derives revenue by providing subscription plans for businesses and video content producers and offering..." This updated description adds clarity to the article about Vimeo's operations.
I've provided sourcing below that I believe supports these changes.
- Vimeo (/ˈvɪmioʊ/[1]) is a global video hosting, sharing, and services platform headquartered in New York City. Vimeo operates on an ad-free basis, and instead derives revenue by providing subscription plans for business and video content producers and offering software as a service (SaaS) with video creation, editing, and broadcasting tools, enterprise software solutions, as well as the means for video professionals to connect with clients and other professionals.[2]
References
- ^ "How to pronounce Vimeo?". Vimeo. Retrieved January 17, 2019.
- ^ La Monica, Paul. "Vimeo is thriving as the anti-YouTube. Here's the CEO's plan for the future". CNN. Retrieved 3 November 2020.
User:Masem, since you've assisted with previous edits to the Vimeo article, I was hoping you might be willing to review this request as well. I'm happy to respond to feedback and questions here or on my Talk page. Thank you! JS Vimeo (talk) 20:41, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
- I've simply omitted "American" from the first line since it ends "hq'd in NYC" which implies American and because Vimeo is clearly on the web, that implies global otherwise. The other additions all appear to be done --Masem (t) 16:50, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Masem: Thank you for continuing to assist with these edits. I really appreciate it! JS Vimeo (talk) 15:02, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
Infobox update and template change
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Type of business | Software as a Service |
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Available in | 7 languages |
Founded | November 2004 |
Headquarters | New York City, New York |
Country of origin | United States |
Founder(s) | Zach Klein, Jake Lodwick |
CEO | Anjali Sud |
Industry | Digital media |
Products | Vimeo OTT, Vimeo Record, Vimeo Livestream, Vimeo Stock, Vimeo Enterprise, Vimeo Create |
Revenue | $200 million (2020)[1] |
Employees | 600 (2020)[1] |
Parent | IAC |
Subsidiaries | VHX, Vimeo Livestream |
URL | vimeo |
Users | 200 million[2] |
Launched | November 2004[3] |
Current status | Active[4] |
I see that some info in our company infobox is out of date. I also noticed that the infobox template currently in use is the defunct dot-com company template, which has been redirected to the website infobox template. I'd like to propose that the template be updated to the website template, as it provides a thorough set of details to article visitors.
I've used our current infobox as a resource for this update, but there are several changes, which I wanted to call out to make sure editors have a chance to consider them individually.
1. Type of business has been updated to "Software as a Service". This is reflective of the article body and more accurate than the current infobox, which lists Vimeo as a "Subsidiary of IAC" in this field.
2. Products includes Vimeo Record, which launched recently and is not currently mentioned in the Wikipedia article. Here is a TechCrunch article that covered the launch. I understand that editors may decide to include this or not.
3. Users is 200 million. This Barron's article provides more up to date information from the current number cited in customer size.
4. VHX has been added to subsidiaries to increase this field's accuracy.
References
- ^ a b Cite error: The named reference
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was invoked but never defined (see the help page). - ^ Savitz, Eric. "IAC Raises $150 Million for Vimeo Unit, Plans Spinoff". Barron's. Retrieved 9 November 2020.
- ^ "Vimeo on the Internet Archive". Archived from the original on December 17, 2004.
- ^ "Vimeo.com Site Info". Alexa Internet. Retrieved July 1, 2019.
Thanks again for the help! JS Vimeo (talk) 15:02, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- Masem, I wanted to quickly reach out and see if you're willing to review the above request regarding the Vimeo infobox. I realize this is a larger change and am happy to hear any feedback you have. Thanks so much. JS Vimeo (talk) 16:42, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- I have made some of these. Note that the "Type of business" field is not the type of product but your legal business type, which is still a subsidiary of IAC (though I saw news of a potential sale to be standalone in last few weeks, at which point if that happened that would change to Private); but I did add SaaS to the "type of site" field in addition to video hosting site. --Masem (t) 22:48, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Masem: Thank you for making those changes and adding Vimeo Record to the article body. I've posted a few new requests below, if you're willing to review them that would be wonderful. Thanks again, JS Vimeo (talk) 15:15, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
Corporate affairs updates and housekeeping, and Vimeo OTT clarification
There are a few spots in these sections that I think would benefit from some updates and clarification. Please see my requests below.
History
- Clarification of Vimeo OTT in Transition to a software provider (2016–present). The first sentence currently reads: "Vimeo acquired VHX, a platform for premium over-the-top subscription video channels, in May 2016, subsequently offering this as a service to its sites customers." Would it be possible to change this sentence to read: "Vimeo acquired VHX, a platform for premium over-the-top subscription video channels, in May 2016, subsequently offering this as a service to its sites customers as Vimeo OTT"? I think this would clarify that VHX and Vimeo OTT are the same thing.
Corporate affairs
In Product offerings and revenue structure:
- The second sentence says that "Vimeo sells its curated services and products..." The word "curated" is not applicable in this context. Vimeo does have a video curation department, but that's simply a feature of the site that showcases videos and is not relevant to how we sell our products and services. Deleting the word "curated" will make this section more accurate.
- Is it possible to mention Vimeo Create in this section? Its launch is noted elsewhere in the article with this Venture Beat article as a source. Adding this to Product offerings and revenue structure will be comprehensive and is inline with having complete information in the article.
- The last sentence of paragraph two has redundant mentions of August, 2019. One of them should be removed as a general improvement.
In Customer size:
- Paragraph one in this section uses present tense to reference statistics that are seven years old. I wonder if it is possible to delete the first paragraph, or move it to History? I think this change would reduce redundancy and keep the Customer size section concise and clear, and improve the History section by maintaining all relevant growth information there. If editors decide the information should stay in place, can the language be updated to indicate past tense for outdated information?
- I noticed the final sentence refers to the site's "175 million registered viewers". This is a minor error, it should say "registered users" per current sourcing. This can also be updated with current numbers, per this Barron's article.
As always, I welcome feedback and trust editors to make appropriate changes.
Thanks for the continuing help keeping the Vimeo article accurate and up to date, JS Vimeo (talk) 15:15, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
- Masem, are you available to review my most recent edit requests? I am especially interested in what you think about the first paragraph of Customer size. Thanks, JS Vimeo (talk) 23:48, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- I've changed the other parts but the customer size is sorta appropriate given that the services in the previous paragraph are also introduced with dates; it would be consistent with other services as the history section tends to be related to corporate affairs less than performance in these types of articles. I did change tense to take it out of present tense though. --Masem (t) 00:39, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Masem: Thanks for making those changes, and for your continuing efforts to keep this page up to date. I have posted a question below, in case you're interested in reviewing. I also made some suggestions over at Vimeo Livestream's Talk page, and would welcome your input. Thanks again, JS Vimeo (talk) 18:18, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Introduction run-on sentence
Hello! I was looking at the introduction and wondering if it would make sense to rewrite it to be clearer, and clean up the run-on sentence? As of this post, the first sentence reads:
"Vimeo (/ˈvɪmioʊ/[1]) is an American video hosting, sharing, and services platform headquartered in New York City. Vimeo operates on an ad-free basis, and instead derives revenue by providing subscription plans for businesses and video content producers and offering software as a service (SaaS) with video creation, editing, and broadcasting tools, enterprise software solutions, as well as the means for video professionals to connect with clients and other professionals."
I think readers would have an easier time understanding if it read something like the following:
"Vimeo (/ˈvɪmioʊ/[2]) is a video hosting, sharing, and services platform headquartered in New York City. Vimeo's business model is software as a service (SaaS). The company derives revenue from subscription plans for Businesses and creative professionals. Vimeo's tools can be used for: creation, communications, collaboration and broadcasting. The company also offers enterprise software solutions, and the means for video professionals to connect with clients and other professionals."
I am open to editors' thoughts, and understand if you decide it's best left as is, or choose to make changes that are not exactly what I've proposed above.
Thanks! JS Vimeo (talk) 18:18, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- I've reworked the lede a bit differently from your suggestion, but still shortening and cutting down the run-on, keeping in mind we're trying not to promote Vimeo but explain encyclopedically what it does. --Masem (t) 14:52, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Paid subscriber and Spin updates
Hello, Jordan here with a couple small requests for the article.
- Per this CNN piece, I wonder if it would make sense to add the most recent paid subscriber data (1.6 million) in Customer size?
- The same source also has details about the upcoming listing and financial data that I thought might be useful in Transition to a standalone public company (2020-present)
- Listing May 25th as VMEO
- Revenue of nearly $300 million in Q1 2021
Masem, thank you for the changes you made to the introduction back in February. If you're still available to collaborate, I'd love to hear your feedback here.
As always, I defer to what editors think is most appropriate for the article, and appreciate all of the continuing help so that I can adhere to the rules for conflict of interest editors.
Thank you! JS Vimeo (talk) 18:47, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- Added that, and will watch for the IPO confirmation tomorrow. --Masem (t) 19:15, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Additional integrations
Hello Masem, thanks for your recent updates about the Vimeo spin-off! I was wondering if you think any of the integrations mentioned in this Tubefilter article should be added? I think that mention of Mailchimp, HubSpot, and Constant Contact could fit in History as part of the company's narrative of moving further into SaaS, or Product offerings and revenue structure. Any thoughts or feedback is welcome. Thanks! JS Vimeo (talk) 17:56, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Masem, just wanted to check if you'd seen this request and are available to review. Thanks so much! JS Vimeo (talk) 18:28, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- Added those under product offerings. --Masem (t) 20:07, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Masem: Thank you! If you're up for it, I've also posted a request on Talk:Vimeo Livestream regarding the introduction. Again, thanks so much for all the ongoing help. JS Vimeo (talk) 15:00, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
Vimeo's partnership with TikTok
Hi there, I'm back with a new request for this article.
- Per this source, can we add mention of Vimeo's partnership with TikTok in Product offerings and revenue structure?
Masem, if you're available for a bit more collaboration, I always appreciate your help.
Thanks for the help! JS Vimeo (talk) 16:49, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
- Added, though I found a difference source for it. --Masem (t) 13:59, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
60fps support since when?
When did Vimeo implement support for 60fps high-frame-rate video (for smoother appearance)? I have a vague memory of a mention I saw years ago of it having been 2009 (i.e. half a decade earlier than YouTube), but I currently can not find that source, and perhaps I don't remember accurately. I could also not find any news articles about other dates. For clarification, I am not asking for myself, but because it could be mentioned in the article. 79.249.145.136 (talk) 04:05, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
Vimeo shifts away from being a YouTube alternative
Someone might wanna add the big shift of vimeo described in this news article:
https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/15/22979126/vimeo-patreon-creators-price-increase
I would have done so in the past but I'm too burned from some editors here on Wikipedia that I won't do effort which will get deleted soon anyway. But I also thought it might be noteworthy
GavriilaDmitriev (talk • they/them) 16:25, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Banned where?
This section ("influence in other countries" seems like an odd title to me) would be good to keep up to date. It just mentions some dates when the site was blocked where but in some cases it was years ago, and the list China, India, Turkey, Indonesia seems quite incomplete to me. How about a map? SovielHungerhabichgarnicht (talk) 13:30, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
Requesting updates
Hi! I'm Bridget, and I'll be taking over for Jordan who previously worked with editors to keep the Vimeo article up to date. I am aware of the rules for conflict of interest editors, and will not make any changes to the article myself. I'm new here, and eager to learn the ropes. Today, I'd like to ask for a few changes.
- In Leadership, add a timestamp for when Anjali Sud became the CEO, and her previous roles within the company. This article confirms the following:
- Appointed as CEO in July 2017
- Joined Vimeo in 2014 and worked as vice president and head of global marketing
- In Product offerings and revenue structure add:
- Brief description of the plan structure. This review explains it as of October 2021.
- Mention of the interactive features added following our purchase of Wirewax. This source talks about them.
- Mention of Vimeo Events. This article talks about it.
Okay, that's all for now. I am happy to prepare content if that's preferable. @Masem: I see that you helped Jordan in the past. Would you be willing to review my requests? Appreciate the help! BK Vimeo (talk) 17:32, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- @BK Vimeo: We do need to watch the sources you are suggesting, as they all are not reliable, and we also need to avoid excessive promotion. I was able to find a source for Sud's CEO from a known reliable source (RS) so that's fine. I turned to press releases and internal blogs for the Wirewax and Events stuff. On the plan breakdown, that's starting to get too much promotional (eg looking at that article the distinction between Plus and Pro aren't as significant from our standpoint). We want to make sure this says Vimeo has put in place more advanced plans including Enterprise, but I don't know if we can go further into that without more RSes that discuss them in depth. Masem (t) 13:53, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Masem: Thank you, thank you! I completely understand your reasoning on the plan structure. In my research, I saw that press releases aren't preferred sources, but it sounds like you're okay with them for basic info, is that correct? I appreciate the guidance. BK Vimeo (talk) 17:41, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- We can't lean too heavily into them, and we also need to avoid being overly promotional. Hence why I could lean on the blog post to add onto the sourced part of Wirewax's acquisition, and how that video feature will us it. If you had a completely brand new feature out of nowhere with no sourcing but press releases, that might be a problem. Masem (t) 17:58, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- I see, thank you for that clarification, I'll keep it in mind for future requests. BK Vimeo (talk) 20:41, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
- We can't lean too heavily into them, and we also need to avoid being overly promotional. Hence why I could lean on the blog post to add onto the sourced part of Wirewax's acquisition, and how that video feature will us it. If you had a completely brand new feature out of nowhere with no sourcing but press releases, that might be a problem. Masem (t) 17:58, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Masem: Thank you, thank you! I completely understand your reasoning on the plan structure. In my research, I saw that press releases aren't preferred sources, but it sounds like you're okay with them for basic info, is that correct? I appreciate the guidance. BK Vimeo (talk) 17:41, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- ^ "How to pronounce Vimeo?". Vimeo. Retrieved January 17, 2019.
- ^ "How to pronounce Vimeo?". Vimeo. Retrieved January 17, 2019.