Talk:Victor Newman

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Date	Process	Result
June 27, 2013	Good article nominee	Listed

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Victor's Whereabouts are known - Page Needs an Update

Victor has been shown alive and well in some shipping port somewhere -- he was watching cargo ships being unloaded and wound up in a bar fight over a game of loaded dice. There's more to the story than this - but Victor's info should be updated to reflect these recent changes. Moucon (talk) 17:36, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge proposal

I think the Newman Enterprises article should be merged with the Victor Newman article. Newman Enterprises is a fictional company that has no real world impact and no importance outside of the fiction. There is very little likelihood that it will ever be expanded beyond plot. All important information about the fictional company is already found the Victor Newman article. Rocksey (talk) 19:52, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Updates needed at the Victor/Nikki page

It looks to me as though Victor Newman and Nikki Reed is about two years out of date. Now that Newman has been written out of the show, that page should be updated. Thanks. Aristophanes68 (talk) 17:08, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Jenkins Abbott

Diane Jenkins recently allowed Victor to sign custody of her child, Kyle Jenkins Abbott, making him his adoptive son, as well as the adoptive brother of all four of Victor's children (Victoria Newman Abbott, Nicholas Newman, Abby Newman and Adam Newman.) Can someone please put that in all their infoboxes? Thanks :) --173.178.230.155 (talk) 00:04, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: BrickHouse337 (talk · contribs) 20:56, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

"The character is widely described as a ruthless character..." Overuse of the word "character". Perhaps change to "The character is widely described as ruthless".
No other issues here.

Done. Creativity97 21:13, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Casting and creation

No issues here.

Development

In "Characterization": "...while other publications have labeled him as a villain..." I find labeled isn't a good term to use; perhaps "described" or "wrote", etc.
"Fralic also described the character as being a "quixotic" character". Same as in lead; overuse of the word "character". Perhaps, "...described the character as being "quixotic".
I see nowhere in the article linked from citation no. 10 that it says Victor has "softened". Unless there's another source currently in use that says this, I suggest it be removed.
In "Relationships": "In 2003, Victor and Sharon shared a kiss, causing issues in her marriage to Nick; she left town to "find herself". I see that it says Sharon had previously been married to "both of Victor's sons". I'm assuming that Victor has two sons, and with that we know she was married to Nick? For these reasons, it could be confusing to a general reader, so I would suggest saying, "...causing issues in her marriage to Nicholas..." And further down where it mentions a Joshua Morrow quote, place link brackets around the name.
In "Departure and return": "...leading to former executive producer Maria Arena Bell writing both Victor and Nikki (Melody Thomas Scott) off the canvas." "Off the canvas" isn't a good term to use because it is potentially confusing to readers. I would suggest changing it to "...both Victor and Nikki out of the series."
Instead of "In another interview with Soap Opera Digest, the actor said...", perhaps say "...the actor commented thoroughly about his departure, saying:".
Instead of "Onscreen, Braeden exited November 2, 2009, and returned by January 15, 2010", perhaps say "...and made his return on January 15, 2010."

Fixed everything. Creativity97 21:13, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Legacy

Place "heartthrob" in wrap brackets ({{}}) with Linktext|heartthrob.
No other issues here, seems pretty stable.

Done. Creativity97 21:13, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Final review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
In its current state, fairly well written. Considering this is a lengthy article, I would suggest a request be made with the Guild of CopyEditors to have it thoroughly copyedited. However, there is probably a time-consuming wait to have it copyedited, so it won't affect the review.
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

Looks good; all of the sources are reliable and verifiable; good job.

It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
Pretty well covered as far as focus.
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:
Overall, this article strikes me as GA material, and clearly a lot of work has been put into it over the past few months. However, my concerns above need to be addressed before continuing. Once they have, I'll return to pass/fail the article. Cheers, --Brick House 337 20:56, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much BrickHouse for being fast and prompt with your review. I've fixed all of the concerns. Creativity97 21:13, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the slight delay here, I gave the article one last look over, and it's looks good to go now. Pass

--Brick House 337 14:43, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much! Creativity97 14:49, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 8 January 2017

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The result of the move request was: Moved — Amakuru (talk) 20:28, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Victor Newman (fictional character) → Victor Newman – Page was moved to disambiguate for a page that is not even in creation. Seems unfounded, plus, if page were to be moved, Victor Newman (The Young and the Restless)' would be the appropriate title. However, this page is the only notable page to qualify for its title. livelikemusic talk! 19:10, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Sole Wikipedia entry which bears this specific title, thus obviating the need for a parenthetical qualifier. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 06:49, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I'm not sure why the page was moved to begin with but I support the reverting.--Nk3play2 ^{my buzz} 06:00, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. It should be noted that a one-sentence orphan stub (896 bytes) entitled Victor Newman [without a hatnote] was created at 06:49, 9 January 2017. The notability of the stub's subject may need to be established, especially since the stub has been positioned as the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of the newly-created (17:21, 5 January 2017) Victor Newman (disambiguation) page. The stub was created by moving Victor Newman (69,612 bytes), created 23 June 2006 [listed as one of the Media and drama good articles, with hundreds of templated and non-templated links], to Victor Newman (fictional character). —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 09:52, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support, per WP:Primary topic, and aforementioned reasons. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 02:11, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support. If the one-sentence stub article that is now Victor Newman becomes a stable article, this article can be moved to Victor Newman (The Young and the Restless). Until then, the current Victor Newman looks like grounds for deletion to me, so this should be moved back. Creativity97 02:30, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support although the Victor Newman redirect is currently tagged for deletion so the disambiguation page can be moved there, the fictional character is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC- Victor Newman (politician) appears to be a run-of-the-mill bureaucrat. Ribbet32 (talk) 03:09, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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