Talk:Venla Luukkonen

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Review: October 13, 2022. (Reviewed version).

A fact from Venla Luukkonen appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 13 November 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Venla Luukkonen is the first Finnish person to win the World IBJJF Jiu-Jitsu Championship at black belt level?

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GA Review

Passed. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:28, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Reviewer: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 18:47, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Copyvio check - I reviewed the two non-zero matches found using Earwig's Copyvio Detector. No issues; there are some phrases like "the first Finnish native to" that appear in the article and in sources that I consider OK per WP:LIMITED.
Image - appropriate and licenced. Alt text could be added per MOS:ALT.

Early life

Is it worth linking blue belt here (and black belt in the lead) to Brazilian_jiu-jitsu_ranking_system#Adult_belt_ranks?
- Done Lewolka (talk) 21:40, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Black belt career

Seems quite brief; perhaps some details such as details of bouts or even just names of other opponents could be added?
"Luukkonen was a European championship medallist for six consecutive years from 2015 to 2020. Luukkonen trains in both Finland and Sweden, she represents Hilti Akademi Nord, where she is one of the head instructors" - not all supported by the cited source, which is from 2014. (Although the first sentence is supported by cited info elsewhere in the article)
- All addressed (removed first phrase and re-worked the paragraph with more details as suggested) Lewolka (talk) 21:40, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life

Seems fine.

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu competitive summary

"2nd Place IBJJF European Championship" years are in chronological order, whilst others are in reverse chronological order.
Non-essential comment: I know not everyone likes tables, but consider putting the info in tables; or, failing that, perhaps group the citations at the end as although their current placement is great for verification, it's not the friendliest presentation to a reader.
- Grouped all citations together under one reference, Hopefully this works. Lewolka (talk) 21:40, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Instructor lineage

Unless there's a consensus or manual of style issue around this being a separate section, I think it might be better as part of the prose under one of the other sections.
- Removed that section since all her teachers are mentioned previously. Lewolka (talk) 21:40, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

Given the relatively small number of sources cited, I used a search engine, the Wikipedia Library, and NewsBank to see if there were any obvious omissions, and didn't find any. I think coverage of Luukkonen does pass the WP:GNG threshold.
IABot could be used to archive copies of sources and prevent WP:LINKROT.
The use of Instagram as a source seems OK for what it is supporting.
Yle Uutiset ref is missing the author.
- Addressed Lewolka (talk) 21:40, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

Lead is short, but proportionate to the article.
The citations in the infobox are not required as the info is cited in the article body. (not a blocker)

Thanks, Lewolka. I'm satisfied that the article meets the GA criteria so am passing it. Thanks for your efforts. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:27, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 01:42, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Venla Luukkonen is the first Finnish person to win the World IBJJF Jiu-Jitsu Championship at black belt level? Source: https://www.bjjheroes.com/bjj-fighters/venla-luukkonen , https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-7294876
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Yoga nidra

Improved to Good Article status by Lewolka (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 15:32, 18 October 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Reviewing... Howard the Duck (talk) 02:40, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I've withdrew my nomination that caused this QPQ review, so I won't be proceeding with reviewing this. Howard the Duck (talk) 12:35, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
New reviewer needed. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:18, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I will review this. jengod (talk) 23:02, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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4000+ characters, promoted to good article within the time bound, hook fact source in Finnish is accepted in good faith, hook fact is interesting (good for her!), article is appropriately sourced and NPOV, no sign of plagiarism. QPQ is done. Ready to go. jengod (talk) 23:19, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]