Talk:Unity of Fields
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Israel-Hamas War” vs. “Gaza genocide”
[edit]Re [1]. The former is less controversial/disputed and more in line with general Wikipedia practice. However I don’t need to start an edit war, so…ip, could you explain your reasons for making this change? Prezbo (talk) 22:00, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- I would assume it is due to the the groups stated reasoning for protest would it not make more since to include both the genocide as their reason and the genocide being a consequence of the war. 208.70.31.232 (talk) 22:53, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Whether Israel’s actions constitute genocide is a matter of dispute, so it’s not appropriate to state in “Wikivoice” (as we call it) that a genocide is going on in Gaza…it would be ok to state that Unity of Fields considers it genocide, if that’s information that reliable sources have reported… Prezbo (talk) 15:54, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- WP:ARBECR means IPs should not be editing the article or participating in consensus forming discussions. Sean.hoyland (talk) 16:34, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Twitter account not currently banned
[edit]the twitter account of Unity does't seem to currently be banned but i am unable to confirm that this is the organizations original account talked about in the article. 208.70.31.232 (talk) 23:14, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- It links to the website and visa-versa so i guess it's safe to say. SP00KYtalk 16:51, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Name change & Political pivot
[edit]Does anyone have any references to why exactly Unity of Fields changed/split from Palestine Action and became a (seemingly based on their website) an ideologically anarchist orientated project? The article mentions the name change but i think the why would be useful to the article. SP00KYtalk 16:49, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- I don’t know what Wikipedia’s sourcing conventions are here. Without doing a deep dive, my guess is that we won’t find much info on the groups internal deliberations in the mainstream press, but there are undoubtedly interviews, communiques, maybe articles in radical publications, etc. Prezbo (talk) 19:03, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I intend to go through the insurecto blogs and maybe Telegram if i can bring myself to install it. I think you're right in that I'm also to not-confident i'll find any suitable secondary sources on it though.
- Don't think i'll put to much time into this generally, as interesting as it is, as (Conjecture, if educated and experience based) likely it will be that in the long run the group will produce little in terms of notable actions and thus create relevant media for us to write on, with this pivot/split I do not expect them to do much in the vain of Palestine Action and it to probably stall and remain as not much more than an arguably unnotable news aggregation blog. I mean there is a reason Palestine Action, despite containing anarchists within it, portrays itself explicitly as a very 'legit' Non-Violent Direct Action org, does not take an ideological position outside of what directly related to the campaign.
- By know means do i mean to dissuade anyone, it is, to me, simply the most likely outcome and simply something to bare in mind. SP00KYtalk 20:51, 10 November 2024 (UTC)