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On 12 July 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to United States support for Ukraine in the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The result of the discussion was not moved.

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Greetings @Diannaa, that book [1] is under CC license, thanks! ManyAreasExpert (talk) 15:35, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License is not a compatible license, because it does not allow commercial use or derivative works, and our license allows both those things. Sorry, — Diannaa (talk) 22:58, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aha! Thanks, can you open my edits temporarily or send to my subpage / wikimail so I can rework them, thanks! ManyAreasExpert (talk) 23:05, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 12 July 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. – robertsky (talk) 11:14, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

United States and the Russian invasion of Ukraine → United States support for Ukraine in the Russian invasion of Ukraine – The US has unequivocally supported Ukraine against Russia. There is no doubt about this. We should be WP:CONSISTENT with other article titles like United States support for Israel in the Israel–Hamas war, Qatari support for Hamas, British support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq War, United States support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq War, Israeli support for Iran during the Iran–Iraq war, French support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq War, North Korean support for Iran during the Iran–Iraq War, Alleged Pakistani support for Osama bin Laden etc.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 15:14, 12 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ❯❯❯ Raydann ^(Talk) 06:39, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The foreign policies of a country may be dynamic and to different extent. Simply concluding the foreign policy as "Support" is an overgeneralization of the situation and should be avoided as the article title. Cfls (talk) 03:43, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unsure There are two political parties in the United States and some sources describe them as being on opposite sides for supporting either Ukraine or Russia. Right now this article could document a US political transition. If we changed the name, then a political transition would require a new wiki article if the US no longer supported Ukraine. I think that both parties have even accused each other of supporting or not supporting either Russia or Ukraine. Bluerasberry (talk) 16:28, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Joe Biden, WikiProject International relations, WikiProject United States, WikiProject History, and WikiProject United States History have been notified of this discussion. RodRabelo7 (talk) 07:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose, in the spirit of Bluerasberry's comment. There's nothing wrong with the current title, and although the proposed title would be slightly more specific, it would also unnecessarily constrain the scope of an article about a historical event that is still unfolding. We may as well stick with the perfectly fine existing title, until enough time has passed that a historical perspective makes it clearer what title is best. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 00:27, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.