Talk:USA Outdoor Track and Field Championships

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Did you know... that the first United States national track and field championships were organized by the New York Athletic Club in 1876?

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I am currently starting an article about the United States Olympic Trials (track and field), which in turn is an important part of the National Championships. The depth of that article certainly should involve more editors than just myself. Frankly I am shocked it does not already exist. Please join in and improve the article.

Regarding this article, in the course of editing the aforementioned article, I discovered a photo making reference to the 2005 National Championships at Home Depot Center. The picture was of the Soccer stadium and said the stadium is also used for soccer. In fact, the track and field facilities at Home Depot Center are in a different stadium than the soccer stadium, so the picture and the reference are both erroneous. I have removed both. Trackinfo (talk) 17:05, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 28 July 2019

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The result of the move request was: Revert move. The nominator withdrew. (non-admin closure) Sawol (talk) 03:15, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

USA Track and Field Outdoor Championships → USA Track & Field Outdoor Championships – Ampersand in common usage Infinite mission (talk) 22:54, 28 July 2019 (UTC) Infinite mission (talk) 22:54, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I don't have any strong feelings about the ampersand, but for what it is worth the organising body (USA Track & Field) is consistently inconsistent on the name. The championships logos since 2014 have all called this meet the "USATF Outdoor Championships"[1][2][3][4][5]. The logos in years prior to 2014 regularly used "USA Track & Field Championships"[6][7][8][9] The 2019 official competition manual calls it the "USA Outdoor Track and Field Championships". Articles on the USATF site use all of these variants with regular frequency[10][11], as well as several others like "USATF Outdoor Track & Field Championships"[12], "USATF Outdoor Track and Field Championships"[13], "USA Outdoor Championships"[14] and "USA Track and Field Championships"[15]. I was going to claim that the only thing USATF hasn't called it is our current incorrect article title of "USA Track and Field Outdoor Championships", but yes, they've even used that one a couple of times [16]. The only thing I do feel strongly about is that the article set naming should be consistent and the common name should be neither the proposed title nor the current one it was been moved to recently, because neither are the official name of the competition, nor the clear common title in use across the world (there isn't one). SFB 21:49, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose move The meet has been held since 1876 (I'm quoting from the article) and has been sponsored by 5 different organizations under the same name, "USA Outdoor Track and Field Championships." It is not wikipedia's role to modify a tradition that is almost a century and a half old to conform with the name of the current hosting organization. They haven't done it, wikipedia shouldn't do it. The name change should be reversed. You are welcome to link to it from other names you might think users would use to search for it. That is what a redirect is for. Trackinfo (talk) 22:21, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose You've changed my mind. It should go back to the common name, USA Outdoor Track and Field Championships. Infinite mission (talk) 17:48, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for changing your mind. Two days later I do not see the names of the articles changed back. Since that was not the specific subject of this question, but we are now in agreement, I will embark on that mission. Trackinfo (talk) 19:33, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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