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all but one in officially recognized tribal reserves : ** baRôlông (reserve created in 1935) ** baKwêna (reserve created in 1899) ** baNgwaketse (reserve created in 1899) ** bamaNgwato (reserve created in 1899) ** baTawana (reserve Ngamiland created in 1899) ** baTlôkwa (reserve created in 1933) ** baKgatla (no reserve).

Moved this, as "official reserves", without an explanation, doesn't seem relevant to modern Botswana. However, perhaps the info chould go into Hist of Bots or Hist of individual tribes - perhaps with elucidation as to what a reserve is/was. JackyR 00:14, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

The class prefixes of proper names in the Sesotho languages are capitalised. It's Botswana, not boTswana. I should know, I'm a Sesotho speaking South African. Ask yourself if you are one before you decide to "reprimand" me for making all those changes. Ight?
-User:ZyXoas 12:34, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Article needs restructuring

This article is mostly a huge list of names of groups within the Tswana people. These lists should be given a separate list page, and the article should be filled with information about demography, history and culture. The picture from 1900 should preferrably be moved to a history section and replaced by a photo.

yes, and also the infobox has an incoherent list of populations that needs to be fixed FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 23:02, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

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Language & Literature

In Setswana, both oral and written literary traditions have long existed in the form of oral poetry and narratives (proverbs and folktales), written poetry, novels and plays. In this process, setswana literary works have also been translated into other languages and mainly English. The forerunners of creative literature in Setswana are undoubtedly the translations done by the missionaries and those by a Motswana, Sol Plaatje. Plaatje is among the first leading Setswana translators before countries where Setswana is spoken such as Botswana and South African attained independence. In his 1916 publication, Sechuana Proverbs with Literal Translations and their European equivalents , Plaatje represents a rather distinct form of translation of oral literatures such as the traditional teachings found in the Tswana culture. One of the methods that Plaatjie adopts in his translation is the appropriation of Shakespeare’s style into the Setswana vernacular. Through this method, Plaatjie seems to emphasize the capacity of Setswana and an African language to be used in creative composition and literature , just as Shakespeare did the same for English. Plaatjie’s approach closely copies the European style and techniques of translation and this can be seen in

other works that he translated from English into Setswana. [1]

Sol Plaatje 002
PT-Tsala ea Becoana-First Issue-1910

168.167.95.15 (talk) 15:06, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://scholarworks.bgsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1123&context=africana_studies_conf
 Question: Where should this section go? --Danski454 (talk) 15:31, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

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Allocation into an age-set or a regiment (mophato) marked the beginning of adulthood. A regiment consisted of men and women of roughly the same age who had been initiated at the same time. The chief would create a new regiment every four to seven years, when eligible 16-20 year old boys and girls could be initiated together. The regiment would also include a member of the chief’s family who, from then on, would be the accepted leader of the group.

In earlier times, the boys underwent a rigorous initiation process that included circumcision and seclusion in the bush. The initiates were subjected to hardships and taught the laws, traditions and customs of their people. However, this practice disappeared during the 1930’s because European missionaries. The king would give each regiment a unique name, usually after some event that had taken place during the initiation, such as a thunderstorm. Anyone not belonging to a regiment would not be allowed to marry. The members of the same regiment worked together and, in the case of men, fought together. They were intimate companions and equals and enjoyed a sense of solidarity and regimental pride. Members of a regiment were expected to respect the members of all previously formed regiments and would in turn be respected by their juniors. The regimental leaders dealt with breaches of discipline in a court situation. Initiation graduates were given knives. [1]

File:Mephato Knives.jpg
Mephato Knives
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — LeoFrank  Talk 17:25, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

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Please change:

"*DJ Fresh Botswana Born South African Radio personality"

to

"*DJ Fresh Botswana Born South African Radio personality"

to arrive at the correct wikipedia page. Reddfox321 (talk) 23:00, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

 Done Gulumeemee (talk) 04:03, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 September 2018

(Redacted)Kgosi Kai (talk) 13:19, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Sorry we can't add that, because it's copied from elsewhere online. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:48, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

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Tswana people

Rebaone Maropefela a South African pilot and Flight Operations Inspector with South African Civil Aviation Authority. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.114.45.226 (talk) 09:05, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Tswana Notable People

Rebaone Maropefela is a South African pilot and a Flight Operations Inspector with the South African Civil Aviation Authority. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.114.45.226 (talk) 09:10, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

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Someone who added the Lozi people, to an ethnic group related to Sotho-Tswana groups made a mistake. The Lozi speak a corrupted version of the Old Sotho-tswana language as result of them being conquered by the invading makololo, they were initially linguistically not related to the Sotho-Tswana language group and only adopted it as a language of the conquerors. The Lozi (Barotsi) are rather related to other Zambian & Angolan neighboring tribes and were originally speaking Luya language as such its wrong to insert them into a Related ethnic groups with Sotho-Tswana people, same as we cant do that for any ethnic group that adopted a foreign language as now part of tha ethnic group. I ask therefore thats such an edit be reverted & revised. links: https://ajess.kibu.ac.ke/tracing-the-origins-development-and-status-of-lozi-language-a-socio-linguistics-and-african-oral-literature-perspective/ https://www.jstor.org/stable/1158780?seq=1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.167.79.74 (talk) 11:23, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

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Meaning of the word Tswana

What does the word Tswana mean... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.207.47.60 (talk) 20:36, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Tswana is just the name of the tribe or their language. ChrisDHDR 16:25, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

The word Tswana, is derived from the Setswana word “Tshwana” meaning “to look the same” Michael Mongalo (talk) 19:00, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Notable Tswana people

Patrice Motsepe - first black South African billionaire and Tswana chief. Mogoeng Mogoeng - Chief Justice Dikgang Moseneke - former deputy Chief Justice Dr James Moroka - 8th president of the ANC. Dr Modiri Molema - one the first black doctors in South Africa. Lucas Mangope - former president of Bophuthatswana homeland. Royal Bafokeng - richest ethnic tribe in Africa. Cassper Nyovest - hip hop artist Onkgopotse Tiro - the brains behind the 1976 Soweto uprisings. Mmusi Maimane - leader of the opposition Thandi Modise - chairperson of the National Council of Provinces. Rapulana Seiphemo - Actor Connie Ferguson - Actor Moses Mauane Kotane - 7th Secretary General of SACP Bonang Matheba - Tv and radio personality, entertainment. 

Solomon Thekisho Plaatje  - founder member and first General Secretary of AND, author and publisher.

Prof E. P. Lekhela - Formation of North West university Mmamokgethi Seitati - first black female South African to obtain a PhD in Mathematics Education and former Executive Dean of the College of Science, Engineering and Technology at the University of Johannesburg Presley Chweneyagae - Actor and Oscar winner. 


Kagiso123 (talk) 13:39, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

Kgosi Ramotshere Moiloa - the king of the batswana tribe called Bahurutshe ba ga Moiloa(the Bahurutshe of Moiloa) who live in Dinokana Village in Zeerust. Who was also a member of the ANC. Michael Mongalo (talk) 19:03, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Both the Sotho and Northern Sotho originate form Tswana

Hi guys,

Altought studies show that Pedi and its sister dialects originates from Tswana speaking groups. This cannot be said for the Lobedu who fall under the Northern Sotho umbrella. There's also no proof that Southern Sotho originates from Tswana. EuKoketsolion (talk) 14:25, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Kgalema motlanthe

From my understanding Kgalema Motlanthe is a Pedi speaker and not Tswana. Why is he part of the notable Tswanas? EuKoketsolion (talk) 14:51, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

  1. ^ https://www.iexplore.com/articles/travel-guides/africa/botswana/history-and-culture
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