Talk:Trevor Jacob plane crash

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merged and redirected as per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trevor Jacob plane crash

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This article seems to completely duplicate the information at Trevor Jacob and is a WP:CONTENTFORK. Given that the story is now complete except for Jacob's sentencing it seems unlikely to get any longer. What is the purpose of this article separate from the biographical article and why should it not be just redirected to Trevor Jacob? - Ahunt (talk) 18:24, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Having the separate page allows for more detailed discussion of the incident than a profile page, especially for someone like Trevor Jacob who is also notable for other reasons. There will naturally be info about the incident on Jacob's page, but having a page specifically for the incident allows for more liberty to expand the page as needed. The incident is also very well covered, including by a wide range of very-well-known national news organizations, suggesting that the event is particularly notable even outside of aviation and is worth more than just a subsection on another page.

I can work on adding links from other pages to this one. Slowtationjet (talk) 19:08, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think a separate page for more detailed discussion is warranted given that everything points to Mr. Jacob's intentional actions as the sole cause of the crash. Although the NTSB hasn't issued their findings, Mr. Jacob has confessed to hiding evidence from and lying to the NTSB, so I seriously doubt that its final report will tell us anything we don't know already. Most of the content of this page duplicates the Trevor Jacob page already, and much of the remainder it arguably trivial. I've AfD'd this article. Carguychris (talk) 19:19, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is not enough in the parent article to support the claim that the crash needs its own space. Nor is there anything to stop all that needs to be said about the crash from being said on the parent page; a fork is not an excuse for relentless trivia. At best this would be WP:TOOSOON but, given the length of time the parent article has existed, it is never going to get much bigger. This is very obviously a pointless content fork; I see it is already being AfD-ed, and a good thing too. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 19:25, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.