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Requested move 25 January 2017

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. A good argument has been presented that the current title is the most common name, regardless of the official one. Jenks24 (talk) 11:48, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]



TrübseeTrüebsee – official wording by swisstopo ZH8000 (talk) 19:24, 25 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 05:44, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). st170e 19:27, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What other sources do you have? I'd like to believe what you say, but don't want to decide this based on the words on one map. I don't find any English-language books that make the distinction. Dicklyon (talk) 04:57, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it is the only source we actually need, since it is an official source (see my comment above) and the maps (e.g. map.geo.admin.ch) is an official document (GeoIG Art. 25 and LVV-VBS Art. 10). But you can also find them in the official database of INSPIRE. -- ZH8000 (talk) 14:00, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I originally believed the naming to be either careless copying or a regional variation, since the name used on Swisstopo (even for the same feature) seemed to vary between different scales and all of the tourist literature available in Engelberg uses the Trübsee spelling. However, Swisstopo is now consistently using the 'üe' spelling for the geographical areas and 'ü' for the lake. Therefore I support this proposal in order to keep the name consistent with the official source. Threefoursixninefour (talk) 16:32, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Threefoursixninefour: Please, may I ask you again to be more careful about your observations. And please (!) follow the formating rules for talk pages: WP:TP.
Swisstopo is always using the Swiss German spelling for all kind of geographical names; this definitely includes the naming of the lake. And tourist material are hardly reliable sources, but indeed more the result of "careless copying".
  • Support This appears as another example of a misspelling of a topic being propogated widely. Follow the govt source and change it tourists will follow suit (you'd be surprised how often tourist sources simply look up whatever spelling Wikipedia uses and ignore the official name, this might even be an issue where the false name in this article is being mirrored elsewhere, propagating the falsehood). InsertCleverPhraseHere 22:45, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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Relisting because there are many arguments above, some of them valid and subtle but others (including the original rationale) completely baseless in terms of policy (see wp:official names, and please do what it says i.e. read WP:AT). So let us relist to untangle them here and give the closer a fair go. Andrewa (talk) 05:50, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.