Talk:Tinchy Stryder
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Grange Hill?
[edit]Wasnt this guy in grange hill in the 90's? --92.17.146.209 (talk) 23:58, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
fam of course he werent he was well too young blad that is pansy talk —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.191.126 (talk) 17:38, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
'Tichy' or 'Tinchy?'
[edit]I always thought it was Tichy, back in 'da' day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.147.128 (talk) 18:59, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Date of birth
[edit]The September 14 article and the Italian version of this article state he was born on 14 Sep 1986. This article, as well as the German and Welsh article state he was born on 10 June 1987. When was he actually born? Article improving (talk) 01:25, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- The article currently cites two sources:
- "UK number one for Tinchy Stryder". BBC News. 27 April 2009. Retrieved 10 September 2016.:
- "the 21-year-old", i.e. born between 28 April 1987 and 27 April 1988
- "The prince of grime comes of age". The Independent. 23 July 2010. Retrieved 10 September 2016.:
- " looks far younger than his 23 years", i.e. born between 24 July 1986 and 23 July 1987
- "UK number one for Tinchy Stryder". BBC News. 27 April 2009. Retrieved 10 September 2016.:
- So 10 June 1987 is possible (although the sources only support the year, not the date), but 14 September 1986 is contradicted by the BBC source. I'm going to change it to "1987" in the article now; any further changes need to be supported by additional sources (WP:BURDEN).
- Regards, HaeB (talk) 04:34, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
- He tweeted this on 14/9/16, is that enough grounds to change the article to September 14? https://twitter.com/tinchystryder/status/776009192150822912 thefaizsaleem (talk) 14:54, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Place of birth
[edit]This article is ambiguous: was he born in Ghana and migrated to London, or was he born in London to a Ghanaian family? Article improving (talk) 01:25, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Links
[edit]Hi all, i included some more external links for the page. i haven't quite got the time to incorporate content from the links into that actual TS article, but if anybody else does that could be a big help. Best Darigan (talk) 12:23, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
education
[edit]Hi guys, the majority of tinchy's education info was included in the introduction, with a further line about his education in a seperate section towards the end of the article. Given that the education info at the end of the article was just one sentence, i decided to drop it into the relevant place in the intro instead, and removed the 'education' section at the end. I am happy to change back if anybody wants it done, but i think that under the circumstances, the best place for his education info is in the introduction. Let me know what you think. Best Darigan (talk) 12:40, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
- It looks ok under the circumstances. Off2riorob (talk) 15:48, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Edit request from JJ-FBP, 30 April 2010
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Discography needs Flashing Lights 2010 added to it. JJ-FBP (talk) 16:18, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
- Not done Please provide a source to say that your quote is true. It can be another website that mentions it. Please then make another request with the address of the page. The rules regarding sources can be found at WP:CITE. Thank you. Chevymontecarlo. 18:36, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Some sources say its called "Flashing Lights", but most say its called "Third Strike". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.135.16.21 (talk) 11:14, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
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[edit]really? 90.222.169.157 (talk) 03:23, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Quotation attributed to Peter Cawley
[edit]I have removed a quotation attributed to "Peter Cawley, Wimbledon FC coach" as I was unable to verify it. It's certainly not at the reference cited. Very strange that it has the US spelling "defenses" too.
Here's the passage I've removed:
- As a footballer Stryder was described by his coach at Wimbledon F.C. at the time, Peter Cawley.
“ | Kwasi Danquah combined immense speed and skill with a physical presence that belies his short height, often surprising players that were a lot bigger and taller than him, similar in style to the Brazilian Romário. Danquah was a small but very fast and strong boy, he had a low center of gravity with very quick feet, which often made him a victim of fouls. He would constantly irritate opposition defenders by making incisive runs from 'in behind defenses' and would play a direct style by running straight at defenders with his speed, he was almost difficult to stop without being fouled.
I think he definitely had the talent and attitude to be a professional footballer. |
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— Peter Cawley[1] |
If someone can find a reliable source for the quote, please add it back to the article with the correct cite. Thank you ⊃°HotCrocodile…… + 18:41, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
References
- ^ "The prince of grime comes of age". The Independent. Friday, July 23, 2010. Retrieved Wednesday, October 26, 2011.
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Requested move
[edit]- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was not moved. --BDD (talk) 22:19, 13 September 2012 (UTC) (non-admin closure)
Tinchy Stryder → Kwasi Danquah III – The name that this person uses is his birth name of Kwasi Danquah III, as he is a businessperson and derives his income from the occupation of being a businessman and business magnate and from his companies that he owns. The name Tinchy Stryder is what Kwasi Danquah III uses as a stage name when he only releases music two to three times a year, such as in the case of Sean Combs and the stage name P Diddy. There is a another pseudonym that Kwasi Danquah III uses which is "Star in the Hood" and named after his clothing company "Star in the Hood (company)", where else in another case, Sean Combs uses his first and second birth names "Sean John" for his clothing company. The point being made here is that the name that Kwasi Danquah III uses and prefers is his birth name Kwasi Danquah III, such as Sean Combs prefers to be called by his birth name Sean Combs, as he is a businessperson and he only releases music two to three times a year under the stage name P Diddy. The title and correct title should be his birth name Kwasi Danquah III. MarkMysoe (talk) 05:29, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
- Support per the Sean Combs precedent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.193.163 (talk) 16:31, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose - plenty of rappers have a stage name and use their real name for their business empire, but have articles located at the stage name (per COMMONNAME) - see Dr. Dre & Jay-Z among others. There is no evidence that Kwasi Danquah III is the COMMONNAME - I've never heard him referred as that before, always as Tinchy Stryder. GiantSnowman 10:55, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose. Clear case of WP:COMMONNAME. The Sean Combs case is completely different, as he's commonly known as Sean Combs as well as P Diddy. Tinchy Stryder, however, is not well-known by his real name. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:48, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose - same reasons as GiantSnowman and Necrothesp. Malpass93! (what I've been up to/drop me a ___) 14:43, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- Comment only. MarkMysoe has already renamed a number of articles from Stryder to Danquah. Depending on the outcome of this RM there might be need for a group of RMs and some dabs, too. --Richhoncho (talk) 16:24, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- Comment All other associated articles (videography/awards/discography) have been moved by User:MarkMysoe to Kwasi Danquah III. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 19:39, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- Comment don't forget the two templates {{Kwasi Danquah III}} & {{Kwasi Danquah III singles}} -- 76.65.128.252 (talk) 01:58, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
- Comment also List of awards and nominations received by Kwasi Danquah III -- 76.65.128.252 (talk) 11:48, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose. The sources for the article don't support the nominator's rationale. All other related pages that have been unilaterally moved should be moved back as well. — AjaxSmack 03:25, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
- Comment I moved most of them back last night, watch out for redirects, Kwasi Danquah III often used with no link to Tinchy. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 09:37, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Place of "Origin" is London
[edit]According to the Wikipedia rules on "origin", an artist's origin is: "The city from which the singer or group originated (that is, the city where the group was founded; or the city where individual performers started their career, should it not match the location of their birth). If the city is not known, specify at least the country." This would make Tinchy Stryder's origin London in the article infobox. This is explicitly stated on the artist's wikipedia page, in the Music career beginnings paragraph, in which Stryder's musical beginnings in London are clearly described. According to wikipedia rules, the origin of the artist must be stated in the infobox as it differs from the artist's place of birth. Southlondoneye (talk) 08:08, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
- I would like to inform that Danquah's "place of music origin" is not London, Danquah's music career did not start or originate in London, England, United Kingdom, the "Biography – Early life section" explains that Danquah began making music as early as in 1997, and does not mention that it was "London" as may Southlondoneye would like it to be, and that Danquah started in his "business career" almost immediately after completing his GCE advanced level and general certificate of education in 2006. In the "Music career – Music career beginnings" section it explains that Danquah's recordings date back to 1997 from Ghana where Danquah first attended education and schooling as mentioned by Danquah who is a Ghanaian, during television program interviews and before Danquah attended St Bonaventure's Catholic Comprehensive School then finally the University of East London, where it is then mentioned that Danquah would make appearances in 2000 (three years after 1997) on pirate radio likely in London, which makes Danquah's "place of music origin" in Accra, Ghana, and not in Bow, London, England, UK as may Southlondoneye would like it to be. Danquah's "place of music origin" would be Accra, Ghana from 1997 and not Bow, London, England, UK from 2000. Danquah has mentioned in interviews that he would first attend school in Ghana, before attending St Bonaventure's Catholic Comprehensive School in 2000/2001 and consecutively moved between Ghana and England, UK, as his family and parents reside and have always resided in Ghana, and not England, United Kingdom. I would also like to inform that it is indeed viable for somebody to start or have a music career and a prosperous music career in Ghana, Africa such as the Ghanaian rapper "Sarkodie" for an example, and is not just in the United Kingdom and United States that somebody must start their music career or have a music career and a prosperous music career. – MarkMysoe (talk) 17:47, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- The "Early life & Education" and "Music career beginnings" paragraph clearly state that Tinchy Stryder began his career in 1997, at which time he was a permanent resident of London. In a 2012 interview with The Guardian([1]), referenced on Stryder's wiki page, Tinchy clearly states "When I first started spitting lyrics I was 12", at which time he was a London resident. Tinchy Stryder's career started in Grime music, a style of music which originated in his home neighbourhood of Bow. In a 2012 interview with The Telegraph([2]), it is written "Kwasi Danquah III, 25, better known by his MC name Tinchy Stryder, started his music career on pirate radio stations in Bow, east London". His career origins in Bow are widely referenced, from many sources. Tinchy Stryder began his career in Bow, London, England, and his according to the Wikipedia rules on "origin" this must be stated in the artist infobox. Southlondoneye (talk) 15:36, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
- There has not been a declaration of proof and information provided by the "Home Office" and published by any news agency proving that Danquah was a permanent resident of London, England, United Kingdom in 1997. Somebody cannot be a permanent resident of a city unless they are also a permanent resident of the country the city (London) is located, in this case England, United Kingdom. As for the age that Danquah started making music, it has been stated that Danquah had started making music age 9, 12, 13, 15, and even 16 in numerous Kwasi Danquah III published interview articles, so the accuracy and precise age of when Danquah started making music cannot be pinned down to age 12. Making music does not only involve rapping, it also involves producing, singing, composing, songwriting, arrangement, disc jockeying etc. It is known that Danquah did not start his music career on pirate radio, but indeed Danquah made a few appearances on pirate radio around 2000, but Danquah did not start his music career on pirate radio. It has been stated by Danquah in interviews that when he was young, his family were involved with Ghana Airways, so Danquah would always be on airplane flights with his parents moving from one country to another. Danquah has also stated that before he began rapping he would disc jockey along with his older brother, who was a disc jockey. So inline and according to the Wikipedia rules on "origin", the information cannot be "fabricated" to Danquah starting his music career and originating in London, England, United Kingdom in the artist infobox. – MarkMysoe (talk) 01:13, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Personal life
[edit]he also visits the beaches of Tahiti whenever he can, as he can be "normal" there
Hilarious! Can't he be "normal" on the beaches of Barmouth as well? Skinsmoke (talk) 21:05, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Education
[edit]The article states "He began making music in 1997 and started in business almost immediately after completing his GCE advanced level and general certificate of education in 2006." GCE advanced level ("A-Level") is one form of the General Certificate of Education, which is composed of O-Level, AS-Level and A-Level examinations. I have therefore changed the sentence. And if Mr Danquah has completed an A-Level examination, it follows that he must also have completed GCSE and AS level examinations. Cyan22 (talk) 07:13, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
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