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Religious Implications

I can find no evidence to support this statement --

"Most followers of the Bedouin religion (roughly two thirds) believe that "Timanehah" (The god of all valleys) died in the Timna Valley and was reincarnated in the form of a brilliant individual named Timna Gilat. The remainder of the Bedouins believe this to be complete nonsense."

I suggest it be removed if no reference is given for it. Wilson44691 (talk) 23:43, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Archeology

As the article reads right now, Erez Ben-Yosef is right and previous mainstream wrong. Is this a fair description? This article have more problems, like much of it being sourced to tourism-sites, and the history/archeology sections should probably be merged somehow for clarity. Input is welcome, I know very little about the subject. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:32, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tourism

Tourism have taken up a large part of the lead, much of which is not a summary of anything in the article. Any objections to replacing it with "Part of the valley is a nature preserve, and there are several tourist attractions." and move the rest to the body of the article? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:05, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Those camels

Since the first reports from Erez Ben-Yosef and Lidar Sapir-Hen were publicised there has obviously been a reaction. Here are some sources. Christian Post, the New York Times Time Magazine, Bible History Today. As NYT articles tend to vanish behind their pay wall, some quotes: "These camel stories “do not encapsulate memories from the second millennium,” said Noam Mizrahi, an Israeli biblical scholar, “but should be viewed as back-projections from a much later period.” Dr. Mizrahi likened the practice to a historical account of medieval events that veers off to a description of “how people in the Middle Ages used semitrailers in order to transport goods from one European kingdom to another.”

"Dr. Mizrahi, a professor of Hebrew culture studies at Tel Aviv University who was not directly involved in the research, said that by the seventh century B.C. camels had become widely employed in trade and travel in Israel and through the Middle East, from Africa as far as India. The camel’s influence on biblical research was profound, if confusing, for that happened to be the time that the patriarchal stories were committed to writing and eventually canonized as part of the Hebrew Bible.

“One should be careful not to rush to the conclusion that the new archaeological findings automatically deny any historical value from the biblical stories,” Dr. Mizrahi said in an email. “Rather, they established that these traditions were indeed reformulated in relatively late periods after camels had been integrated into the Near Eastern economic system. But this does not mean that these very traditions cannot capture other details that have an older historical background.”" Dougweller (talk) 09:36, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just noting that an IP on my talk page is saying that the article states as fact the arguments of these two archaeologists. That's obviously not the case, it says "This is seen as evidence", which is accurate although attribution might be a good idea. Dougweller (talk) 14:15, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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This distinction is extremely important

Dougweller, if you feel like it, please take a look at the "Recent excavations" section. Some POV might have crept in, as in "This distinction is extremely important". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:16, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Glueck

'Scientific attention and public interest was aroused in the 1930s, when Nelson Glueck attributed the copper mining at Timna to King Solomon (10th century BCE) and named the site "King Solomon's Mines".' The first part is true (Glueck, 1935) but where is the source for the second part? Zero^talk 02:50, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Geology??

Nothing in terms of real geological background: what formations, their age and composition, tectonics - nothing! Sandstone & erosion is far too superficial. Arminden (talk) 08:40, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]