Talk:The Swingles discography
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[edit]I have attempted to compile a comprehensive discography for the Swingle Singers and posted what I have so far into this Wikipedia article but I have been unable to verify some details for many recordings. The main information still needed is "year of release" and the name of the record company releasing the (original) work. I know "Primarily A Cappella" has re-released many Swingle Singers albums and they may even be the initial release company for many of the later albums – but I have not been able to verify which of those later albums are original Primarily A Cappella releases and which are re-issues of previously released (by others) albums.
I have indicated what information is missing or unverified below with ???????? and I have included album numbers to (possibly?) assist in further research. Of course there may be errors / typos among those numbers as well.
Chronological ordering... I have included release years with the recordings for which I could verify release dates and left the release year blank (and made "best guess" estimates of the approximate original release period) for those albums without verified release dates in the chronological listing below. But it is very possible that the chronological placement for some of the recordings shown below is not correct and will need to be modified as better release date info becomes known (and is properly cited). Pugetbill (talk) 21:36, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
The Swingle Singers 1963 ~ 1973
[edit]- Bach's Greatest Hits (1963) Philips – aka Jazz Sébastien Bach (Vol. 1)
- Going Baroque (1964) Philips – aka Going Baroque / de Bach aux Baroques
- Anyone for Mozart? (1965) Philips – aka Swinging Mozart
- Getting Romantic (1965) Philips – aka Les Romantiques
- Rococo À Go Go (1966) Philips – aka Swingling Teleman
- Encounter with the Modern Jazz Quartet (1966[1]) Philips – aka Place Vendôme
- Spanish Masters (1967) Philips – aka Sounds of Spain: Concerto d'Aranjuez
- Operazione San Pietro (movie soundtrack) (1968) C.A.M. 515333-2 (this was released as a "digital download" album in 2005 (see link) but presumably it was also released back in 1968 as a physical vinyl LP album??? (along with the movie???)
- Christmastime (1968) Philips – aka Noëls Sans Passeport
- Back to Bach (1968) Philips – aka Jazz Sébastien Bach 2
- American Look (1969) Philips
- Sinfonia; Luciano Berio conducting the New York Philharmonic and Swingle Singers (1969) Columbia MS 7268
- The Joy of Singing (1972) Philips – aka Les Quatre Saisons (The Four Seasons)
- Bitter Ending (1972) Epic 80544
Swingle II 1974 ~ 1979
[edit]- Love Songs for Madrigals and Madriguys (1974) Columbia / CBS 80147
- Words and Music (1974) CBS 80554
- Rags and All that Jazz (1976) CBS 80947
- Lovin' You: Words and Music Vol. 2 (1976) CBS 81546
- Baroque (1976) CBS 69209
- Luciano Berio - Swingle II - A-Ronne / Cries Of London (1976) London/Decca 425620
- English and French Songs (1977) RCA RL25112
- Pieces of Eight (1977) CBS 82305
- Swingle Bells (1978) Moss Music Group 1124 / EMI SCX 6603
- No Time to Talk (1979) CBS 83458
(Madrigals comment)
[edit]- I have an album by the Swingles simply called Madrigals. Release date early 70s —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mccarcass (talk • contribs) 23:14, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- I am guessing that the album Madrigals you refer to is likely the same (content) as 1974's Love Songs for Madrigals and Madriguys. It is not uncommon for albums to be released under similar (but not identical) titles by different labels (in different countries for example). Pugetbill (talk) 14:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- [UPDATE] - Madrigals (CBS 80147) is the title of the album released in the UK, whereas Love Songs for Madrigals and Madriguys (COLUMBIA 33013) is the title of the same album released by Columbia Records in the US. Since this is a UK group, the album's Wikipedia article probably should have been titled Madrigals.Pugetbill (talk) 17:16, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
The Swingles / The (New) Swingle Singers 1979 ~
[edit]- Swingle Skyliner (1979) Moss Music Group 1115 / EMI SCX 6617
- Folio (1980) MMG1125 / EMI SCX 6631
- The Swingle Singers "Live" in New York '82 (1982?) SWINGCDR01
- Reflections (1985) Eastalgia? BTA 12134
- Instrumentals (1986?) Polydor POLD 5205 [2]
- Live at Ronnie Scott's (1987) ???????
- Notability (????) ??????? / Primarily A Cappella 6212
- 1812 (1989) Virgin Classics / Primarily A Cappella 6215 – a mix of 8 studio and 7 live tracks
- A Cappella Amadeus, A Mozart Celebration (1991?) Virgin Classics / Primarily A Cappella 7618
- Luciano Berio: Sinfonia, Eindrücke (1992) Erato / Primarily A Cappella 7977 – performance with the Orchestre National de France
- Pretty Ring Time (1994) ??????? / Primarily A Cappella 6213
- Bach Hits Back (1994?) Virgin Classics
- New World (1995) ??????? / Primarily A Cappella 6214
- The Swingle Singers Sing Irving Berlin (1996) Sanctuary Records 644 / Primarily A Cappella 6246 - aka Nothing But Blue Skies, The Irving Berlin Songbook
- Screen Tested (1998) ??????? / Primarily A Cappella 6240
- The Story of Christmas (1998) ??????? / Primarily A Cappella 6250
- Ticket to Ride - A Beatles Tribute (1999) ??????? / Primarily A Cappella 3355
- Keyboard Classics (2000) Primarily A Cappella 4315 – aka Dabadaba Classics (????) King
- Live in Japan (2001) ??????? / Primarily A Cappella 4460
- Mood Swings (2002) ??????? / Primarily A Cappella 4470 – aka Dabadaba Swing (????) King
- Around the World, Folk Songs (2002) Virgin Classics / Primarily A Cappella 6208
- Retrospective: The 40th Anniversary Show (2003) ??????? / Primarily A Cappella 4530 – live
- Unwrapped (2004) Signum UK 107 / Primarily A Cappella 4540
- Dido's Lament (2005) ??????? – EP
- The Swingle Singers, Live (????) ??????? / Primarily A Cappella 6244
- Beauty and the Beat Box (2007) Signum UK 104 / Primarily A Cappella 7639 – with beatbox artist, Shlomo
- Ferris Wheels (2009) ??????? / Primarily A Cappella 2134
Compilations:
[edit]- Jazz Sebastian Bach (????) Philips 8247032 – a "two-fer" combining Bach's Greatest Hits (aka Jazz Sébastien Bach) and Back to Bach (aka Jazz Sébastien Bach 2)
- Anyone for Mozart, Bach, Handel, Vivaldi? (????) Philips 8269482 (/ Verve) – a "two-fer" combining Anyone for Mozart? (aka Swinging Mozart) and Going Baroque: de Bach aux Baroques
- Compact Jazz: The Swingle Singers (1987) Mercury 830 701-2
- Bach Hits Back / A Cappella Amadeus (????) Virgin Classics / Primarily A Cappella 6209 – a "two-fer"
- Swing Sing (2009) Sony Music 88697 552462 – "...includes tracks from Rags and All that Jazz, Lovin' You and No Time to Talk..."
- The Swingle Singers: Anthology (????) Virgin Classics - 4 CDs: Bach Hits Back, A Cappella Amadeus,..., 1812, Around the World
- Swingle Singers (2005) Philips 9826325 – 11 disc boxed set of all 11 Philips recordings of the original Swingle Singers (from 1963~1972)
Appearances on other albums??????
[edit]- Faisceaux / Diffractions / Swingle Novae Jean-Claude Eloy / Michel Zbar (1972) Office de Radiodiffusion-Télévision Française (ORTF) 995 038
- Idsteiner Schloss Konzerte 79/80 (????) HGP 8018 / LC 7228
- Sonnets of Desolation / Visions and Spels (1984) Composers Recordings, Inc. (CRI) SD 515 – "features The New Swingle Singers on side one performing Ben Johnston's "Sonnets of Desolation" and the New Verbal Workshop on side two performing Johnston's "Visions and Spels"
- Let's All Get Together (1984) SVT 7029 – with Ad Libitum and The Bengt Hallberg Trio
- ^ See release year discussion at Talk:Place Vendôme (Swingle Singers with MJQ album)
- ^ Carol Canning discog page
Pugetbill (talk) 21:36, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Moved large section from main article to this discussion page
[edit]Today, I removed the below list of albums and track listings from the main "The Swingle Singers" wikipedia article as I felt it was too long (and too detailed) for the main article. This info had been added to the main article long before a Swingle Singers discography article had been created. But it now seems (to me anyway) that this kind of detailed track listing info should best be left to articles on the individual recordings themselves or - perhaps - in the "discography" article. My personal preference would be to not list individual tracks in the discography article itself so I have "parked" this info here for now - in case other editors disagree and wish to return it to the main article and/or add it to the discography article. Pugetbill (talk) 00:03, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Ferris Wheels (2009)
Beauty & the Beatbox (2007) (collaboration with beatbox artist Shlomo)
Unwrapped (2004)
Mood Swings (aka Dabadaba Swing) (2002)
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Compilation Album (1989)
Live at Ronnie Scott's (1987)
Reflections (as The Swingles) (1985)
American Look (1969)
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Pugetbill (talk) 00:03, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Missing at least one album
[edit]The discography is missing A Celebration of the Voice http://www.amazon.com/A-Celebration-Of-the-Voice/dp/B002LFQ8LC --Johncolton (talk) 16:46, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
- It appears this particular album (from 1996) has been released under several different names. The original release appears to be from c. 1996 titled, Nothing But Blue Skies, The irving Berlin Songbook or The Swingle Singers Sing Irving Berlin. This same recording appears in digital mp3 releases as [http://www.amazon.com/A-Celebration-Of-the-Voice/dp/B002LFQ8LC A Celebration Of the Voice] and as (a CD-R offering?) [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004JKM3LG/ref=cm_cr_asin_lnk Top Hat White Tie And Tails]. As one reviewer on amazon.com notes, the album covers for these later digital releases are fairly deceptive as they depict the members of the original French "Swingle Singers" (in pre-1974 photos) who had nothing to do with this 1996 recording made decades later by the London-based successor group.
- Pugetbill (talk) 23:59, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
Swingle Novae
[edit]I moved the Swingle Novae piece up to the main discography. It's one of their important avant-garde works that belongs alongside the Berio and Hodeir pieces. It is NOT, for example, just the group making a brief appearance on someone else's record album. Also, this recording has nothing to do with Jean-Claude Eloy's "Faisceaux/Diffractions", which just happens to be on the other side of the LP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.36.144.92 (talk) 12:16, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- I understand the rationale for moving this particular album into the "main" Swingle Singers discography, but it seems wrong to omit / alter the title of the album. Although the two LP sides feature unrelated recordings by two different groups, the album's title typically appears as Faisceaux / Diffractions / Swingle Novae, not Swingle Novae.
- Faisceaux / Diffractions / Swingle Novae (1972) Barclay (Inédits ORTF) 995 038:
- Perhaps it would be better to list the full/correct album title with a footnote mentioning the fact that the Faisceaux and Diffractions pieces are non-Swingle Singers recordings?Pugetbill (talk) 05:45, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- I changed the entry to something we (hopefully) can agree is correct. I guess the problem is how to cite just one of the pieces on a record album.
- Of course, those music sites you listed above often just get their information from each other, so inaccuracies are constantly perpetuated, such as the idea that there is a single piece of music called Faisceaux / Diffractions / Swingle Novae which is absolutely incorrect.
- Side one is a single piece by Eloy called Faisceaux-Diffractions.
- I do appreciate how you are looking after the Swingle Singers discography. It's important. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.0.158.48 (talk) 01:17, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
- Works for me - very nice resolution/addition. (and I agree about the non-authoritative (and often inaccurate) music site "sources" I listed in my comment above). Pugetbill (talk) 15:30, 27 July 2012 (UTC)