Talk:The Rookie (TV series)/Archive 1

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I read the main character is based on a real person

I read on IndieWire that Fillion’s character John Noloan is based on a real person. I’m looking around the internet to see if it’s true and who it is. If I find that it’s true, could we mention it on here? I think it would be respectful to that person if we did. Solri89 (talk) 18:01, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

As far as I can find, no one has mentioned his name in the press or interviews. If you find it, let us know! Her Pegship (speak) 19:56, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

So far I've only seen articles mention that it was based on a true story but with no details. Probably wasn't more than an initial idea, it may be not even close to the truth.-- 109.76.139.209 (talk) 03:31, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

I know this discussion is quite old but for anyone interested in this, the story is based on the life of LAPD Officer William Norcross per this. TheDoctorWho (talk) 00:57, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Can we try to agree on the genre?

IMDb lists The Rookie as "crime" and "drama". The ABC site doesn't give it any genre designation. There is humor in most episodes, but the show isn't marketed as anything but drama. Editors keep changing the description from "drama" to "dramedy" to "comedy-drama", back and forth, and I realize it might be hard to classify, but could we at least avoid a low-level edit war over it?? (Plus "dramedy" always makes me think of camels.) Just a thought. Her Pegship (speak) 04:14, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Pipe bracket errors

It would be great if we could avoid using broken bracket links like [[#epX|]] with nothing between the pipe and the end brackets, even if it's in code that's commented out. this makes it harder to find the real errors with searches like this one. thank you. Frietjes (talk) 21:58, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Typo in Season number mentioned for October 2019

In the last 2 lines of the Introduction para of The Rookie, it says - "In May 2019, ABC renewed the series for a second season, which premiered on September 29, 2019. In October 2019, ABC issued a full season order of 20 episodes for the second season." I think there's a typo - In October 2019 ABC issued an order for the THIRD SEASON, not second. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.7.76.139 (talk) 12:27, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

It is definitely not a typo at all because when it was renewed for a second season it was not confirmed that it would be a full season or not. But in October 2019, it was confirmed that the second season would be a full season. — YoungForever^(talk) 18:25, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Comedy-drama

There has been a recent addition of the genre comedy-drama, which has been reverted by at least two editors. This has resulted in the beginnings of an edit war and needs to be discussed. I can see where the confusion might come from; season 1 was a much lighter show than seasons 2 and 3 are, and all three do include some light comedy and an occasionally lighter episode, but the show could never be described as a comedy-drama. Contrast it with Nathan Fillion's previous show, Castle which is a great example of a comedy-drama to see the difference: this show is much more serious both in premise and in subject matter. The mistake I find editors make is to assume that because a show uses occasional comedy as a story-telling elements must make it a comedy-drama. That's far from the case; even the most serious dramas like ER or Hill Street Blues used comedy to tell their stories and could never be termed a comedy-drama. While The Rookie is lighter than these two examples, neither is it a comedy-drama in the style of Castle, and should not be labeled or categorized as such. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 18:30, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

I agree with Drmargi here. As far as I know, we go by reliable sources. When reliable sources called the TV series a drama, then it is a drama. I am sure a lot of drama TV series have a little humor here and there, but that doesn't make them dramedy/comedy-drama. A lot of sitcoms have a little drama here and there, but that doesn't make them dramedy/comedy-drama. — YoungForever^(talk) 19:39, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

@YoungForever: Nope, I would wager if the OP's point has to be taken at face-value, it simply means that the freshman season of the show was distinctly light-hearted, whereas the following seasons are not. I would hope that Wikipedia's own guidelines are flexible enough, to not warrant such a reductive, rigid prism of assessing it in that binary, irrespective of whether uncited sources called it "buddy-cop thriller" or "dramcom". —103.163.124.73 (talk) 11:02, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

You are absolutely wrong. Additional genres need to be reliably sourced. You can't add a bunch of unsourced genres on a TV series article, that is not how it works on Wikipedia. — YoungForever^(talk) 14:59, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

@YoungForever: Ouch! So given that's an irrefutable convention that in-line citation for genre is sparsely the case across WP:FILM & WP:TV articles, even if we consider only-&-only [International] English-language works are considered. And I do mean that's the case hitherto in 2021. (Care to address this only if [you are] radically-honest.) It simply matters on how stringently a particular article is policed, eh? Anyhoo.. I was merely meaning to clarify the OP's point, per my educated inference. Nevermind that given the reliability reputation of showbiz-news in general, determining which sources are reliable as classifying-authorities for genres could be a tad bit tricky biz, in and of itself. Regards. —103.163.124.73 (talk) 03:44, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Add a place for alternative opening?

In most episodes, at the end of theme song is the usual title card, the name of the show in white over a background of blue sky & palm trees. But occasionally, the title card differs, like in season 3, episode 1, where you see the show name in black palm trees in gray scale with red & blue lights flashing at the bottom.

Was there interest in adding a place for those alternate openings? 2601:46:4100:FFD0:85D1:E18A:1956:F5E8 (talk) 22:30, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure they that important. Castle used to do this several times a season and it was never noted. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 22:34, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

If it was notable enough I don't think it would necessarily hurt to add it, there would need to be reliable sources though. Something similar to Young Sheldon#Title sequence, if we were too. TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:26, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

There have been seen to show multiple different openings depending on what happened in the previous episode. SoyokoAnis - talk 05:06, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Please note

The logo to this show is not what is shown on the infobox, those are just words. SoyokoAnis - talk 18:42, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Draft notice

This is a notice that there is a draft for the upcoming spin-off at Draft:The Rookie: Feds until such a time that it is ready for inclusion in the mainspace. All are welcome to come help nurture the article's development there. TheDoctorWho (talk) 06:55, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Clean up of show blurb

The beginning blurb is fine, but it gets wordy underneath the info box. It lists out every season and when it concluded, with the exception of the last season. It ends up being wordy with a lot of extraneous info that doesn’t need to be in the first info box. I think it should just have the date of the premiere & then the current seasons information (season started on x date). DianetheHuntress (talk) 04:35, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Season 6??

Greetings! A recent edit cites "ratings" for "season 6 (2023)", but there is no confirmation or source that says the show has been renewed for a sixth season. If you made this edit, please cite your source(s). Thanks! Her Pegship (?) 17:53, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Merge

I would suggest that the list of episodes article would be easily merged to this page Michael H 19:14, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Titus Makin Jr.

Why does the English Wikipedia not know anything about Titus Makin Jr. to say? He has a formative role in the series. The German Wikipedia is further ahead and has dedicated an entry to him - quite rightly. Molekuelorbital (talk) 00:03, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

because no one made it, if u want it u could add it Michael H 19:15, 2 July 2023 (UTC)