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I have merged out the separate article to eliminate a huge overlap. The entire US article is within recommended size limits so there is no need to splinter the information. 'Semi-formal' is not suitable to the article and has been moved back. TerriersFan 17:53, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting changes

The taxicabs of the United States article was too unwieldy with such a significant portion of the article actually about NYC taxis and not taxis in the US in general. Meanwhile, NYC taxis have an interesting and unique story all their own, and their scale alone (NYC's population is larger than Switzerland's, after all, and Central Park is bigger than Monaco; the city has far more taxis than any other US city) should merit special consideration. More to the point, the New York taxi, the "yellow cab," is a fixture in American popular culture and stands apart from taxis in the rest of the country. It is also a major component of the city's transportation system and is bound up with the city's labor and social history. For these reasons the NYC taxicab article has been separated back out again from the US taxi article, in the hopes that enterprising editors will come along and give it its proper due. (Note that this has more to do with the Transportation in New York City story than with the Taxis in US story; as such, worries about splintering should not get overblown.)

The semi-formal section does seem barely suitable; but an article about taxis in a city is ultimately about vehicles for hire, which includes livery services as well as official licensed cars. As it stands now the semi-formal section could use some editing for greater relevancy and better sourcing, but its existence in the article seems worth considering. As the article is a work in progress I've put it back in for the moment.Momos 05:26, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Around here we edit by concnsus - argue yout case on the main page and leave things be until you get concensus. TerriersFan 18:05, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry to say that this topic is now a big mess. While there are lots of great facts here, the structure and exposition needs to be revamped. For example, what happened to the 1940's and 1950's? Also, some of the information is now misleading due to the multiple edits that have been made. For example, attributing the origin of the yellow paint for taxis after another sentence with the date of 1967, makes you think that this only started in that year rather than the early 1900's. Although I would be happy to help clean this up, I can't do so at the moment. I would ask other editors to please be careful when making updates and encourage the entire article to be reorganized. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glaszlo (talk • contribs) 22:32, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cab fires

I have moved the following text here:

"On September 20, 2007, a Ford Crown Victoria taxicab standing in front of a comedy club on 42nd Street burst into flames. This had been the second time in one week that a cab in service had caught fire. No one was injured at the scene. The fire is attributed to the GPS systems, credit card machines, LCD displays, and other extra equipment the TLC is mandating being installed into the cabs, pulling too much power from the alternator causing it to overheat and catch fire."

This is contentious and as such should stay out unless closely sourced. TerriersFan 15:11, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removed incorrect statement re: illegal to avoid neighborhoods.

I have removed the following incorrect statement from the 1960's section: "... and cabbies often illegally avoided neighborhoods of racial minorities." This is NOT accurate. There is nothing illegal about a cab driver avoiding a particular neighborhood when seeking passengers. Cabbies are independent contractors and may seek out passengers in any of the five boros, by cruising for street hails or waiting at a taxi stand. There is no requirement that cabbies somehow seek out passengers from every neighborhood, nor could such a requirement be implemented.

What is illegal, of course, is refusing to take a passenger to a certain NYC neighborhood, or, refusing an orderly fare. But as independent contractors, cabbies are free to seek out their fares wherever they please, and for a number of mostly economic reasons, core Manhattan plus the airports remain the primary places for cab drivers to seek out customers. SONORAMA (talk) 15:34, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Old Branding Taxicab Picture

I changed the picture of the Old branding style of NYC taxis because the cab in the previous picture was not an actual NYC taxi (No TLC cab says TAXI on the roof light, they all have their number there.) I think the picture's fair use, if it isn't and it gets reverted, could someone replace it with one they're sure works. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Winnebagan (talk • contribs) 03:12, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Lock Box" and torture

I took out the last 2 or so paragraphs in the 1970's section. They talked about the alleged motivation of cab owners, and a completely uncited rant about how cabbies where tortured instead of just robbed. Thirdgen (talk) 04:31, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1890s ->

Could there be scope for the inclusion of a section in the 'History' chapter about the takicabs before 1907, such as between 1895 and 1905, where the taxicabs running the streets were electric, rather than just a single sentence in the 1900s section.

Unless anyone is opposed, and then, I guess you could just revert the edit or whatnot, I am going to create a section in the 'History' chapter, before 'Early 1900s' about the taxicabs of the late 1890s. CybergothiChé (talk) 20:25, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I have created the sections "Late 1890s - The Electric Era" and have also updated the section "Early 1900s - The Checker Cab". CybergothiChé (talk) 16:19, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There seems some misunderstanding in the Electrobat. These were the first truly useful electric automobiles in the USA, but strictly experimental and built in very low numbers (iirc, there was only one of each, Electrobat I - IV). Their builders, Henry G. Morris and Pedro G. Salom, were freelancers that got involved in the de:Electric Carriage & Wagon Company, and they constructed the successfull E.C.W.C. cabs. The company was absorbed by the Electric Vehicle Company. I have changed the picture for an appropriate looking cab. You couldn't get a lady in her full dress entering such a vehicle as the Electrobat...--Chief tin cloud (talk) 13:50, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

ECWC, EVC and Columbia

The information about the 1907 fire is interesting. Is there more evidence? E.V.C. became a holding company with the participation of Col. Albert Pope, who included his Columbia Motor Car Company. E.V.C. vehicles were produced under the Columbia label after that.--Chief tin cloud (talk) 13:50, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Gallery

I put several images together into an {{image gallery}}. In doing so, I added alt text for all of the images. I don't know if consensus will support me, but if it doesn't, will the reverting editor please remember the following?

Make sure the alt text is preserved by the revert.
If you revert back to the old version and re-add the alt text, you may want to {{FixBunching}}. This can be done by putting all of the images at the beginning of the section, one after another, and following the directions at that template (or the help page linked from that template).

Thank you. --N Y Kevin @311, i.e. 06:28, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Density

There are 8 363 710 habitants in NYC and 13 237 taxicabs; therefore there are 632 habitants per each taxicab. What is the taxicab density over all metropolitan area (22 694 000 habitants)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.112.42.30 (talk) 11:30, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

External Links

I propose to remove inappropriate links that seemed to have accumulated over time. The following were either broken or obviously for advertising or promotion.

1) Removed "Rear Entry Taxicab Provider" This site is a commercial site. One of many that offers similar products.

2) Removed "iTaxiNYC - Taxi information - Lost & Found - Live Traffic - Taxi Reserve - Fare Finder" This site is not maintained and has no content. I believe it was added as advertisement or promotion

3) Removed "NYCTaxifinder a resource for taxi information" This site is a commercial site and did not contain any useful information.

4) Removed "Article on hossli.com about the designer of the new Taxi logo" This was a dead link. There is no article at this specific address. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IppTak (talk • contribs) 02:23, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest adding an external link to "New York City Taxi Fare Finder", a free site that allows users to calculate/estimate the fare. This site is PR=6 and has support of various taxi companies and drivers from NYC. It is also endorsed (i.e. linked to) by cityofchicago.org, seattle.gov and other government agencies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IppTak (talk • contribs) 02:28, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

External link to a Taxi fair/rate comparison page with other cities and countries ?

I'd be interested in such an overview page, as many people dealing with mobility I assume. But does such a page exist? Thy--SvenAERTS (talk) 13:47, 31 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Issues with several sections, the longest being "taxi security"

I tagged two sections as NPOV-dispute, that being the most egregious issue. The author compiled a lot of good information but this and the below section are completely uncited and have repeated paragraphs and a few sentences with strong editorializing, e.g. "certainly annoyed all users," "would not be looking for the taxi of the future today." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djechlin (talk • contribs) 02:13, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Celebrity Squawking Taxis

In the process of chasing down the quite-valid "contradictory" flag regarding the purported 1997-1993 timespan for the Celebrity Talking Taxi program (which I've resolved, with sourcing), I got to wondering why that entire paragraph was located in the 1970s section in the first place. Turns out, it's because the article's first mention of the program came as an edit to the following:

In response to complaints about head injuries, from impact with the partition, the TLC instituted a requirement for a "Talking Taxi Box"; this was also abandoned after an eight-year trial.
— Diff introducing the text "Celebrity Talking Taxi"

Since it's not entirely clear to me that this was even about the same program, or if so why the original mention was located in the 1970s section, I wanted to stash a copy here in case it's anything that warrants inclusion in the article. I'm relocating the "Celebrity Talking Taxi" paragraph to the 1990s section and updating. — FeRD_NYC (talk) 10:14, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Taxi medallion

Should Taxi medallion content be moved here or medallion content moved there? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:09, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]