Talk:Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby/Archive 1
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Product placement?
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Was the copious mention of powerade and wonderbread, as well as the appleby's add near the climax of the film an intentional part of the script, or were the makers of the film paid for all the product placement? I suspect the truth lies somewhere in between, but the article ought to mention the massive amount of product placement.-70.92.246.98 00:31, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
- I saw on CNN that they were not paid to put those endorsements in, they needed them to make the cars seem real, so they gave free ad space and time..
The name Ricky Bobby and trivia
I have removed the trivia stating that Ricky Bobby's name is a combination of Ricky Craven and Bobby Labonte. It could very easily be a reference to Ricky Rudd, Bobby Unser or, more likely, Bobby Allison. WhoIsWillo 02:15, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Misheard dialogue
I may have misinterpreted the film, but early, as Ricky is signing her head, Susan introduces herself as his(Ricky's) sister. Later on, he makes out in a bar with her, and kisses her after a race. In one of the final scenes, she says that they have had sex. Was the sister angle early in production and later dropped? Or is the incest intended, as NASCAR fans are stereotyped as rednecks, who also are stereotyped to be normally involved in incestuous relationships? 24.32.212.143 14:54, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Susan introdues herself as his ASSISTANT, probably confused during the commotion as being said as SISTER, i think . =X
- The anonymous editor misheard the dialogue. Or is a troll. BabuBhatt 17:54, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
- It was misheard dialog, I watched it again tonight(it's a great film, worth the $16), and it sounded much more like assistant. 24.32.212.143 01:39, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Plot Synopsis
Are Wiki plot descriptions usually that detailed? That's like a third grade book report summarizing of the movie. Seems like overkill to me.67.180.142.90 17:16, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
In the theaters, there was a scene that did not appear in the Unrated Version DVD where Ricky gathers his former pit crew after they had been let go. Lucius was working at a carwash, for example. Also the bloopers at the end of the movie in the theaters were not in the Unrated DVD, particularly the hospital scenes where the actors couldn't keep from laughing --much different than the extra coma-scene monologues which appeared on the unrated DVD.
Also, the scene with Ricky Bobby in his mom's car near the beginning was cut out of the unrated version. Any explaination for these omitions?
Product Placement Trivia
Despite the fact that I have provided a reliable and credible link to support my piece of trivia that Wonder Bread, Perrier and Old Spice did not have to pay for thier part in the film, one individual continues to supply misinformation by changing my entry repeatedly. I have tried contacting this user through his or her talk page, but they have so far not responded. The IP address for this user is 24.11.162.67
I honestly don't know what to do next, as most of my wiki experence has been on wikias, and not wikipedia, but it is clear he does not want to listen to me, or just doesn't know how. Regardless, he is adding misinformation to the page for reasons beyond me. Any advice would be helpful. WhoIsWillo 09:23, 16 August 2006 (UTC) I hear that Wonder bread and Old Spice have to do advertising on the movie because of that. Perrier did not have advertise. Baseracer 22:05, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
- That's what the phrase "backend promotion" means. WhoIsWillo 15:17, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Trivia
Wikipedia guidelines clearly state that trivia is to avoided. I've reorganized the "Trivia" section while retaining most of the info. Uncited stuff, speculation and plain irrelevant statements were removed in accordance with verifiability guidelines. Basically, if you can't back anything up with a third party source, it counts as original research and is ineligible to be used here.Michael DoroshTalk 16:17, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
In Addition to this, I've renamed the 'trivia' section from "Other Production Information" to Trivia 219.90.130.111 04:13, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Trivia (IMDB/Wiki)
In the article it says; "Ben Stiller and Steve Carell were originally cast in the film, but they couldn't accept because of scheduling conflicts."
But at the IMDB trivia page ([1])it says ""Producers pitched the movie idea to studios as: "Six words: Will Ferrell as a Nascar driver.""
It should be fixed, given a reference or just explained.
--Plankton5005 04:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- The Article currently states "Former Anchorman Co-Stars" then the rest of what was quoted. Ben Stiller was not in Anchorman.
- I don't know if I'd say co-stars per se but ben stiller was in anchorman as the leader of the Latin anchor team during the alley fight scene. 65.167.69.42 03:01, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Jean Girard based on Alain Prost?
Would be it be right in saying that Jean Girard is loosley based on Alain Prost? My reasoning for this is that both are Formula One champions and both are regarded, by some for Prost :-P, as being the best in the World and both are French. Now, I say "lossley" because Alain isn't gay!
But, like I said, would it be appropriate in your opinion? --Phill talk Edits 10:47, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Trivia Copyright Problems
The Trivia Section appears to have some copy and paste jobs from [2] and is considered to be a copyright violation. Sawblade05 15:32, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Whenever this gets resolved, it should be noted that in the opening scene at Talladega (Ricky's first race), about the time the checkered flag is waving a fan is waving a flag with a red Texaco-Havoline #42 flag - based on the cars in the race, it's obvious that the race took place when the Texaco-Havoline car was the Yates #28, not the Ganassi #42. --WarEagleTH 02:18, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
"This is the second movie where Will Ferrell plays the title character with the initials of RB and has a "The Legend of R____ B____" after the title. The other being Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy"
-- This is obviously completely wrong, since the movie is called "The Ballad of Ricky Bobby"
Why is there a prequel
There is says there is a prequel for this film. For some reason it says that "Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy" is a prequel and the same thing happens with "Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgandy" it says that "Talledega Nights : The Ballad of Ricky Bobby" is a sequel.
- First, sign your posts. And anyway, Anchorman and Talladega Nights are part of the Mediocre American Man Trilogy, and therefor CAN be referred to as a prequel/sequel combination, though I personally would not, as it's obviously confusing. Morte42 (talk) 20:36, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Wording at end of plot synopsis
As of his writing, the synopsis reads:
The race ends with all cars being wrecked and Girard and Bobby running on foot to the finish line. Girard then offers to shake hands with Ricky after Ricky beats him, but instead Ricky passionately kisses him. Both drivers are disqualified for violating race procedures and Cal wins the race, having been in third prior to the wrecks.
That could be read as kind of implying that what they're being disqualified for is the "passionate kiss", but in the next scene the reason is actually explicitely given as being for getting out of their cars. Perhaps it should be reworded. (I'd do it myself if I knew how to put it better; it's not the courage I'm lacking, but the ideas.)--CRConrad (talk) 08:21, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Ricky's car?
Does anyone know what make of car Ricky Bobby drives- Ford, Chevy, or Dodge? I'm just curious. I can't make out the make of his car(I have a hunch it is the Ford Fusion but I could be wrong).
It's a Monte Carlo, accordng to the diecasts. 152.163.100.6 16:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Later in the movie he drives a Ford Taurus. You can tell this movie was shot in October of 2005 as they were still using the Taurus instead of the Ford Fusion.
The car he had with the original race team he was with in the begining of the movie he drove a Chevrolet, later in the movie (when he built his own car and was with no particular race team) he drove a Ford. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.188.189.79 (talk) 05:16, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
opening sentence
The statement that this film is based on a true story should be explained or removed. PurpleChez (talk) 17:49, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Tommy Robert
Why is Ricky's son "TR" referred to twice as "Tommy Robert"? I don't recall seeing that name anywhere. Cable2001 (talk) 18:22, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
What is this movie rated?
Why is this information nowhere in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.171.148.209 (talk) 17:21, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- See WP:FILMRATING. MPAA ratings are not normally mentioned in film articles. -- 109.79.176.231 (talk) 15:37, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
3
Wouldn't this movie be considered a parody of the Dale Earnhardt movie 3? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.61.212.34 (talk) 18:58, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- 3: The Dale Earnhardt Story? Talladega Nights was primarily parody of Days of Thunder, it shares multiple plot points.[3] -- 109.79.176.231 (talk) 16:00, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Expanding / explaining template
I came across this template:
{{Mediocre American Man Trilogy}}
There isn't any word on Wikipedia about the so-called Mediocre American Man Trilogy, so I thought maybe here someone could help out. --Soetermans (talk) 23:08, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
- A trilogy of two films? I looked at an older version of the article before it was turned into a redirect, it included no sources whatsoever to explain the supposed "Mediocre Man Trilogy".[4]
- It appears to have been something Ferrell and McKay mentioned during the press junket[5][6] "Will playing prideful, mediocre guys is a joke we never get tired of," said McKay. "Will plays unearned hubris better than anyone."
- They didn't seem particularly serious about it, and it is difficult to tell if it was planned or merely a whole load of coincidences they noticed after the fact. Also the lack of a third film many years later suggests they weren't being serious about it either. -- 109.79.176.231 (talk) 16:00, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Where are they now?
Adam McKay wrote a piece for Sports Illustrated called Where Are They Now[7] which details what happened to Ricky Bobby after his big win.
I'm not sure where to add this to the article, maybe the "Real World Homage" section? -- 109.79.176.231 (talk) 15:35, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- It gets weirder, the DVD included a "25 years later" commentary track.[8] -- 109.79.176.231 (talk) 16:00, 15 May 2020 (UTC)