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"Although the name of Taktser is a reminder of the times when the earliest inhabitants were Tibetan tribes, the Huis have been the main ethnic group in the area since the Qing Dynasty (1644) [4]. In 1935, the village, then under the control of Muslim warlord Ma Bufeng, consisted of 17 households, 15 of which were Tibetan."

Hui have been the main ethnic group in Tengtser since 1644, but 15 out of 17 households are Tibetan??

Clearly, Tibetans were the main ethnic group in Tengtser, at least until 1935. SheilaShigley (talk) 20:16, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The source for the 15 Tibetan households out of 17 is from Thomas Laird, The Story of Tibet: Conversations with the Dalai Lama, (2007, p. 262). If you have a conflicting figure, you're welcome to mention it.--Christian Lassure (talk) 17:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

15 MAR 2014, Jack Foreigner: What is the real meaning of "Taktser"??? The Dalai Lama himself, in his autobiography and on his website, notes it as "Roaring Tiger."

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This citation does not support the preceding first half of the sentence, "Despite it being under centuries of Chinese-speaking environment,..."[[1]]

First, this edit's citation uses 2 separate quoted citations. Perhaps, if there is a need to use 2 separate and unrelated quotes, there should be 2 individual and separate citations.

Cited quote #1 (from page 3) is "In 1710, during the reign of the Kangxi emperor, a large part of my native Amdo had been incorporated into the Manchu empire as part of the region known as Qinghai" (p. 3) This quotation does not support the assertion of language dominance as used in the phrase "Chinese-speaking environment"- when the Machu Empire used military force to "incorporate" parts of the Amdo province of Tibet. Also, a fact worth noting in the selection of this quote is that the next sentence says, "Manchu control, like that of the Mongols, never reached our villages." It seems that Taktser village was unchanged, both physically as well as linguistically by the expanding Machu or Qing Empire. In addition, Manchu is not a Chinese language and was recognized as one of many languages within the Qing Empire.

Cited quote #2 (from page 2) is "The village sits just at the edge of Tibet at a juncture of several cultures - Mongolian, Chinese, Uighur, Tibetan and Hui, with each culture speaking its own distinct language. Much later, as more Chinese moved into the area and we began to intermix, we began speaking a mixture of Tibetan and Qinghai Chinese language." (p. 2) This quotation itself, refutes the assertion in the sentence that there was a "Chinese-speaking environment," as this implies the dominance of the use of the Chinese language for these centuries. This cited quotation itself states that were many languages spoken, certainly Turkic, Mongolian, Chinese, Tibetan and perhaps others such as Arabic. A ri gi bod (talk) 17:48, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]