Talk:Superleggera
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Merge with Spaceframe?
[edit]- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
The result was inconclusive, default to keep separate. -- Debate 木 21:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
On the face of it I would say that Superleggera and Spaceframe are one and the same thing, except that the Spaceframe article deals primarily with a spaceframe in generic terms, while superleggera deals more specifically with spaceframe car chassis. I think the best solution would be to create a new article called "Spaceframe chassis" and redirect Superleggera to that, because someone looking up a spaceframe car chassis would not really find what they're looking for on the Spaceframe article.
I disagree most strongly: Superleggera and spaceframe are very different things indeed which is why space frame vehicles do not infringe the patents registered by Touring of Milan: The Superleggera construction was in essence a tubluar steel frame for the support of the vehicle panelwork and nothing else. Superleggera coachwork is mounted upon a separate chassis or floorpan
A space frame not only supports the vehicle body panels but also acts as the vehicle chassis - unlike Superleggera which is purely a coachwork construction. Space frames (unlike Superleggera) require no separate chassis and provide mounting points for the vehicle suspension.
I also disagree Superleggera can be viewed as as a much ligher replacement for the wood (ash) frames used in tradditional coachbuilding, the best examples of superleggera construction can be seen on 1960s high end sports cars such as some Ferrari and Aston Martin models. A spaceframe chassis uses 25mm or larger tubes, usually steel which are MIG or TIG welded, or bronze welded ("brazed" sic) togther to form a box like three dimensional structure which is crossed braced with diagonal members to prevent racking, the load paths are widely seperated and ideally all structural members are loaded as ties or struts. Good examples of spaceframe chassis are the Lotus 18 and Cateringvan Seven.
- Strongly disagree. Not only do I disagree with merging this article with Space frame, I believe that tube frame should redirect to space frame and not to this article.
- Superleggera is a system that was patented by Carrozzeria Touring to fabricate coachbuilt bodies. Tube frames and space frames are used as load-bearing structures and would be used in automobiles as chassis, mostly in sports cars where the combination of rigidity and light weight are of utmost importance. Respectfully, SamBlob 19:12, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Aluminium as an exotic material.
[edit]Is Aluminium, the most abundant metal on earth, really exotic as this article suggests? I know it relates only to cars but there are alot of aluminium cars, the main reason against aluminium in cars is repairing it. Should the first paragraph be re-worded?(Morcus (talk) 15:27, 8 July 2008 (UTC))
- It was? in the 50s and older cars I think --— Typ932T | C 16:44, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera
[edit]The Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera uses the name but only as a tribute to the 350GT. It does not use Superleggera construction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.219.88.140 (talk) 17:39, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Remove statement not supported by references
[edit]I removed the following from the article: "In 2008, a new Superleggera chassis was introduced by the Carrozzeria Touring Superleggera srl. of Milan for their new A8GCS Berlinetta prototype with Maserati mechanical parts."
I am not able to find any supporting references from reliable sources. Reliable references that refer to the A8GCS state that a Maserati GranSport Coupe was re-bodied by Carrozzeria Touring, but do not clearly state that Touring also designed and manufactured a superleggera chassis. The statement -may- be accurate, but I can find no supporting information even on the Touring Superleggera SRL website. Ch Th Jo (talk) 00:38, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Not to be confused with the chair
[edit]Kindly add that "Superleggera" is also associated with a chair designed by Gio Ponti,
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/86/Gio_Ponti%2C_Chaise_Superleggera%2C_1955.jpg/218px-Gio_Ponti%2C_Chaise_Superleggera%2C_1955.jpg)
– Fritz Jörn (talk) 20:09, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
Photo error
[edit]The first photo shows a DB6 rather than a DB5, perhaps that could be amended? 82.11.120.209 (talk) 11:39, 6 January 2024 (UTC)