Talk:Sunshower
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Are there any myths, legends, or folktales which explain the origins of the phenonemon in more detail?
Causes
[edit]Can anyone provide more detail on the meteorlogical causes of sunshowers? This article is more like a language article than a weather article. Jokermage 13:53, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
- "'Sun shower' is not a meteorological term but it is widely used in the community. The nature of showers coming from cumuliform clouds means that often the sun can be seen while the rain is falling. If this happens when the sun is low in the sky in the early morning or late afternoon, turn your back to the sun and admire the rainbow in front of you. Rainbows can only be seen when the sun is below 42° above the horizon. The largest rainbows are seen close to sunset or sunrise when the sun is right on the horizon." from Weather Terms. Jokermage 14:02, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Merge
[edit]The Sun shower article is a stub with some detail that is not present in this article. Jokermage 13:53, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Article picture
[edit]![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Patio_1_bg_061304.jpg/220px-Patio_1_bg_061304.jpg)
I'd like to propose this image for the article.
- It's nice enough. If you can find a suitable one, however, perhaps a picture of the rain coming down from the sky would be better?
- Misterstark 10:14, 4, August, 2006 (UTC)
- I found some nice, suitably-licensed ones on flickr, showing raindrops and sunshine in the same photograph. They're in the article. -Kieran 15:13, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Commercial Sunshowers
[edit]Can someone find some more info on the Sentavi Sunshower? The OhGizmo! link links to their site, which is apparently NSFW (Is that grounds for not linking to it from here? I don't think it is but if anyone's certain, please add the official link). This is a sun shower that will turn into a thunderstorm or even a tornado!!!!
Misterstark 10:14, 4, August, 2006 (UTC)
wtf
[edit]What idiot wrote this article? It doesn't talk about sunshowers at all, only alternative names for it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ChristopherArmstrong (talk • contribs) 10 October 2006.
Deleted unattributed statements
[edit]I deleted some uncited and erroneous statements about non-US synonyms/sayings re sunshowers. Most of them appear to have been quoted (possibly second-hand) from the writings of a linguist, Professor Bert Vaux, on an academic webpage that no longer exists. In September, Vaux will send me cites to his written work, and an URL if he puts it back online at his current academic posting. Meanwhile, if I have time, I'll dig through JSTOR but I hate doing that, since users without university i.d. usually can't get into that database (unless their local public library has an account and they know how to get into it). I'll put them back as soon as I get an accurate copy which can be accurately cited. -- Lisasmall 23:23, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
kitsune (fox) 's marriage =
[edit]From Edict http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/wwwjdic.html 狐の嫁入り 【きつねのよめいり】 (n) rain shower while the sun shines
http://www.languagehat.com/archives/000938.php
Also mentioned in the Wikipedia kitsune article http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Kitsune —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.25.51.27 (talk) 16:10:14, August 19, 2007 (UTC)
"Devil is beating his wife"
[edit]My mother explained the phrase "the devil is beating his wife" this way: The devil is Lucifer, derived from Latin, "light bearer." The rain, of course, represents his wife's tears. I have no source for this other than mom, and mom would qualify as "original research" so I can't put it in the article. I thought someone reading this page might be interested in her explanation, so I've added it here.Typing Monkey - (type to me) 00:44, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Help!!!
[edit]I have a science project due TODAY!!! Please tell me how a sun shower can occur!!! Submitted by: --66.26.40.222 (talk) 11:33, 27 March 2009 (UTC)Anynomous (P.S.: My grade depends on it!
Fictional Use
[edit]I removed the Fictional Use section because none of the contents pertained to this article. Turbo900 (talk) 00:57, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Bulgarian saying
[edit]The Bulgarian saying refers to bears ('the bear'), rather than the Devil - "Sun is shining, rain is falling, the bear is wedding" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.36.7.130 (talk) 13:43, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Norwegian saying
[edit]A Norwegian friend of mine told me that in Norway they say, "There's a marriage in the underworld" (i.e., their version of hades), but I can't find a reference for this. Truejim (talk) 21:56, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Protected??
[edit]Can't edit this page despite it not appearing to supposed to have protected status. --208.38.59.163 (talk) 16:03, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- Hi. I couldn't find any logs that would suggest page protection. However, you can suggest changes to the article here. Please remember to find some references if possible. Thanks. ~AH1 (discuss!) 22:59, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
Predictive Supperstition (etc.)
[edit]Where my family comes from (East Kentucky) it's said that if it rains while the sun shines it will rain again the next day. Don't know if similar superstitions exist elsewhere, but I'll not add it because I don't know of a published refference on it. If anyone one does, however, such things are at least as interesting as devil's beating/kissing wives/daughters (which I have only heard once before, and only for the first time a few years ago, finding it a shockingly bizarre at the time). Jared (talk) 12:29, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
BTW: More information on meteorilogical aspects might be even better -- though I doesn't seem that complicated in an obvious way (there is a cloud up there raining over you, but other areas of sky are not blocked by clouds) -- though if there is anything more/different than seems obvious it might be nice to know. Jared (talk) 12:32, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
foxes and wedding symbolism
[edit]I can't help but notice that a lot of these names for a sunshower involve foxes and weddings of some kind, and these names are allegedly distributed across multiple religious groups, language groups (indo-european, japonic, dravidian, etc), and continents, and this is ringing a lot of my suspicion bells. Does anyone know what might be going on here?
Thinking about it more, several large parts of this page have been marked as "citation needed" since 2019, and I can't find any good sources by a cursory search, so unless anyone can find some good sources or has a strong objection, I think it might be prudent to just remove the unsourced materials. Margatroidwitch (talk) 06:48, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
Three more publications on sayings and beliefs
[edit]- Gold, David L. (1981). "A Light Rain While the Sun Shines". American Speech. 56 (2): 159–60. doi:10.2307/455034.
- Gold, David L. (1984). "More on a Light Rain While the Sun Shines". Leuvense Bijdragen. 73: 33–8.
- Gold, David L. (2001). "Still More Lexical Items and Folk Beliefs Referring to the Co-Occurrence of Rain and Sunshine". Neophilologus. 85: 445–56. doi:10.1023/A:1010385010766.
— S. Valkemirer (talk) 12:43, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for you suggestions. I am sure they will be useful in improving the article, and I have thus added them to the Further reading section.
- However, your formatting of these citations was absolutely atrocious and nearly unreadable. As a result, I have reformatted them. In the future, please use the proper citation templates when citing a source. In this case, Template:Cite journal is the one you needed.
- — Toast for Teddy (talk) 00:23, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
- Maybe next time try for a little more grace, a little less infantile aggression. You're part of a community - act like it. 144.6.175.126 (talk) 04:23, 26 December 2023 (UTC)