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@Joshua Jonathan: It's not a term, it's a practice, which is supported by sources. I changed the word in the lead sentence to "practice" so this is no longer an issue. The original article was just written badly. Apparently you didn't notice that and are trying to stuff your own unsupported terms into the lead. All of the sources in Works cited describe it as a practice, which makes sense since both variants are verbs. Skyerise (talk) 15:47, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The terms come from your sources. Harris p.91 (emphasis mine): "... and enter the state of no-thought." State; and not "stopping thought," but "no-thought." Harris is repeated in the article itself, which says "Paradoxically, Zen teaches that the attainment of this state..." Taylor p.36 refers to wu-nien, "no-thought," that is, no-mind. Taylor further writes: "wu-nien means not repression, nor forcefully stopping thought, but rather, non-attachment and consequently nonreinforcement of the stream of thoughts and feelings." In other words: " the normal pre-occupation with mental chatter slows and then stops." Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk!16:17, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But the terms describe the resulting state, not the practice itself, and the sources also frame it that way. Read more closely without an eye to forcing a merge. Skyerise (talk) 16:28, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not bothering merging or not here; I'm trying to understand what we're talking about. If "stopping thought" is a practice in Zen and yoga, then there should be Chinese and Sanskrit terms translated with this phrase. So far, citta-vritti-nirodha and wu-nien seem to be the relevant terms, but the meaning of those words, and the 'means' to 'attain' them is already extensively explained in other articles. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk!16:34, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The practice is actually much broader than the articles on the terms (each exclusive to one tradition), which is why a separate article is needed to cover the broad range of traditions that have similar practices. By my count, we are missing use in Advaita Vedanta, Taoism, Yogananda, Kabbalistic Mysticism, and Shingon Buddhism, at the very least. More sources refer to the practice using the alternate title 'quieting the mind'. While it is nice that there are detailed articles on terms in specific traditions, this article should properly be an overview detailing the traditions that practice it and referring the reader to the more detailed, term rather than practice focused articles. Skyerise (talk) 16:41, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The current article is just a stub. It should have sections for each of the disciplines going into more detail about the practice in Buddhism in general, not just Zen, in meditation, and in yoga. Skyerise (talk) 16:08, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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