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Requested move 18 March 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Move. Considering that there are no other articles on films called Stop at present, the arguments for moving to the more WP:PRECISE title are stronger. The article should be moved back if and when other articles on films of this title are created. Cúchullain ^t/c 20:32, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Stop (2015 film) → Stop (film) – Unnecessary disambiguation; no other articles for films named "Stop". PC78 (talk) 18:12, 18 March 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. SITH (talk) 19:43, 26 March 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. Anarchyte (talk | work) 11:07, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Lmatt (talk) 22:30, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nominator. Nohomersryan (talk) 03:08, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I think a bit of reserve is needed here with a recent Japanese art film with a crew of unknowns. It's clear that Stop (2004 film) Hindi film was bigger commercially and Stop (1970 film) is much more known in books, even if Warner brothers didn't release it at the time, it's historically important in the context of black American film-makers. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:44, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:PRECISE. There's no other article currently on WP about any other film titled Stop. If that changes in the future, this can easily be reversed. Station1 (talk) 17:27, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. There are at least four films by this title. Too generic not to be more specific. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:21, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- None of those other films have articles; they may never have articles. We should use the simplest, most concise form of disambiguation available. PC78 (talk) 15:51, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - The fact they have entries on the dabpage is enough for me. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:07, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support as long as this is the only actual film article. If someone wants to make an article out of the 1970, 1972, or 2004 films with notability clearly evidenced, then I'd be glad to change to oppose. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 16:19, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Wikipedia has no article on other films named "Stop." Calidum 01:50, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Even if the other articles don't exist, their films do and this isn't the only one with the generic title. Opencooper (talk) 04:42, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - We don't require that an article exists, only that it is covered on Wikipedia in order to use clear WP:Disambiguation. The entries on the DAB page point to coverage of other films with this title. -- Netoholic @ 20:27, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Citation needed. Wikipedia:Disambiguation repeatedly focuses on disambiguating actual articles, not possible ones. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 20:39, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I mean, its there in the very first line of the guideline: when a potential article title is ambiguous, most often because it refers to more than one subject covered by Wikipedia, either as the main topic of an article, or as a subtopic covered by an article in addition to the article's main topic. So an article can be ambiguous even if no other standalone articles exist with that name. -- Netoholic @ 02:17, 27 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
But in this case neither of the other films are covered anywhere as "subtopics", so that doesn't support your argument at all. PC78 (talk) 07:40, 27 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support - currently there are no other articles with this title. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 20:47, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support per standard Wikipedia practice. There are numerous examples of Wikipedia articles for films, books, TV series, etc that have the same titles as other such works which have no Wikipedia articles. If/when the same-name articles are created, the pertinent disambiguations can be revised. Also, we should not be creating redirects for works without Wikipedia articles. Such titles should remain as redlinks until the actual articles are created. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 21:10, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. 3 or 4 similarly named films on the DAB page, and at least one other (1999) exists, all should be considered missing articles and added. Or removed from the DAB page. This RM seeks to paper over a bigger error that exists. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:00, 31 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above. No other Wikipedia article exists with the same title, so disambiguation is unnecessary. If/when an article about another film with the same title is created, simply disambiguate by year. “Missing articles” aren’t considered when applying policy or naming conventions. -- Wikipedical (talk) 21:34, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per SmokeyJoe. The solution here is creating the articles for the other movies, not titling this one as if they don't exist. That would be an improper application of WP:PRECISE. I also agree with Netoholic's citation of the first line of WP:DAB. Safrolic (talk) 03:22, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Since this is the only film article on Wikipedia, there is no need to disambiguate further with a year. — Amakuru (talk) 09:47, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.