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Fun with lists

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I entertained myself with some logical deduction at Commons:File:SCSGlobalPresence.png, annotating it first with a list of all the sites listed in the file, then adding a column comparing their status in the 2004 redacted version. I was kind of curious what made them conceal the existence of some but not others. I don't claim to have figured that out, but it actually is possible to figure out most of the 2004 redacted items with a reasonable degree of confidence. What do you make of it? Wnt (talk) 18:15, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal

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Merge Special Collection Service into Stateroom (surveillance program). According to the articles and WP:RS, the SCS is the U.S. unit that carries out Stateroom intelligence operations, alongside services from allied nations. Including SCS in the broader Stateroom article between contextualizes SCS within Stateroom and places it alongside its partner agencies. Right now, the SCS article is a mishmash of information about SCS itself and the Stateroom program more broadly. Longhornsg (talk) 21:32, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose merge -- At best, it would be the other way around -- Stateroom being merged into the parent article for SCS, which is the agency that ran not just Stateroom, but other programs as well. By way of comparison, we would not merge Central Intelligence Agency into Bay of Pigs if we felt they didn't merit two standalone articles; we would merge the operation article into the article for the agency that ran it. There's no reason we'd expect different here. That being said, I don't think a merge would be appropriate anyway, as the two articles are distinctive and distinguishable enough to stand on their own (notably the SCS article having an entire history since 1978, well before Stateroom came about) -- and of course the SCS article is going to have mentions of Stateroom on it. That doesn't make it a "mishmash." SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 00:34, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]