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A fact from St Mary's Church, Chislehurst appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 21 November 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Napoleon III was buried in St Mary's Church, Chislehurst, before his remains were moved to Farnborough Abbey 15 years later?

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The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 talk 23:24, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Napoleon III was buried in St Mary's Church, Chislehurst, before being moved to Farnborough Abbey 15 years later?

Source: "The exiled Emperor himself died in 1873 and was buried on 15 January 1873 in St Mary’s ... she transferred the Emperor’s sarcophagus and the Prince’s coffin in 1888," from Taking Stock, by Historic England.

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Núria Llansà

Created by Cardofk (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

Cardofk (talk) 08:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Hi Cardofk, review follows: article created 9 October and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources for the subject; I didn't pick up anything I considered overly close to the main source in a check for close paraphrasing; hook fact is interesting, mentioned in the article and checks out to source cited; a QPQ has been started. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 11:52, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cardofk: The source indeed says: "in 1881 the Empress founded St Michael’s Abbey at Farnborough, where she transferred the Emperor’s sarcophagus and the Prince’s coffin in 1888" but down the bottom it also says: "both the Emperor’s sarcophagus and the Prince’s coffin were removed by the Empress to Farnborough, Hants., in 1889. There is a memorial to the Prince Imperial on the East wall of the church erected by Monsignor Goddard his friend and tutor on the spot where the Prince’s coffin rested from 1879-89." Do we have another source? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:48, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Hawkeye7: Thank you for catching that, yes I've added another source. The "list description" at the bottom of that source is the original property listing made in the 1970s by Historic England, often done very quickly with little evidence of verifiability. The long text above was done in the 2010s and often corrects the listing by providing more detail. Thanks again, Cardofk (talk) 08:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For confirmation the reburial took place in January see, for example, this contemporary report from The Tablet of 14 January 1888 - Dumelow (talk) 08:54, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Too many refs?

Hello Cardofk, Firstly thanks for this article. I added the Taking Stock ref copy because I couldn't see Grant (or the 1854 date or Pugin) mentioned on the given Historic England ref, either in its Official List Entry or Overview tabs. Am I missing something? JennyOz (talk) 09:52, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

whoops, sorry, I thought that it was in the list entry, now I realise that it wasn't enough. You can revert the edit, I don't mind. Cardofk (talk) 15:09, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Cardofk, all good. JennyOz (talk) 04:10, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]