Talk:Sport coat
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Sport Jacket?
[edit]I have never heard it referred to thus. SportS Jacket is standard and widespread, but not Sport [singular].
Can anyone better inform me? Psidogretro (talk) 16:12, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
- hmm. This sounds like the whole "daylight saving(s) time" issue. Maybe this'll help. Annoyingly, the article is still misnamed as a single word, if you're going by Esquire's standard. And who cares if this question's over a year old? Orthografer (talk) 03:11, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
I've definitely heard sport jacket growing up in New Jersey in the 80s/90s. Ashleyisachild (talk) 13:22, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
Clarification on the terminology as I understand it
[edit]The coat or jacket difference depends on the item itself and the climate where you are. Coats are heavier than jackets. Which term you select is regional because of the typical conditions of the sport.
The sport being upland game bird hunting. If this is traditionally done where you live when it's a cooler out you would do so in a sport coat, which is generally going to be heavier and longer. If this is done when it's still a bit warmer you would use a sport jacket.
In no event do you wear a sports or sporting jacket or coat.
The "sport" being the traditional singular "sport" as in hunting not "sports" as in things people play like tennis or golf.
If you were going to undertake a hunt which you could expect to required a higher volume of shooting and more activity such as fowling you would wear a shooting jacket. You wouldn't traditionally have a shooting coat because if it's cold enough to require a coat it's too cold to be fowling. That is of course in the days before synthetics and other modern luxuries.
If you were hunting stag you would chose a stalking coat or stalking jacket. A Stalking jacket generally has more pockets than a sport coat, is waterproof and should have a thick collar which can be turned up against the wind.
Other activities such as riding, spectating (equestrian,) sailing, golfing, and so on have their own traditional attire. None of which are a sport coat or sport jacket.
All that said, these days the words get compounded, and the choice of coat or jacket has nothing to do with the reality of the garment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.150.59.159 (talk) 07:08, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
^ Whoa that sounds really interesting but where are you getting this from? Ashleyisachild (talk) 13:22, 26 June 2015 (UTC) CRUCIAL ISSUES~! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.12.174 (talk) 19:07, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Tailored?
[edit]Are all sport coats tailored? Are they called something else if they are not? I've always bought 'em off the rack but I could swear it said "sport coats". -- Gyrofrog (talk) 21:59, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
"Tailored" is just not an appropriate part of the definition. Editing out. zadignose (talk) 08:31, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Rename of article
[edit]I've just renamed the article from "sportcoat" to "sport coat", which is by far the more common spelling: see Google Ngram results here. As a further check, editors can google up articles in Esquire and GQ, which are generally authoritative in matters of men's dress in the English-speaking world, to see that "sport coat" is the usual spelling. It may be that in time the two words will merge, as have other combinations in English over the centuries - but it hasn't happened yet. Textorus (talk) 14:45, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
- I always think of 'sport(s) coat' being American usage, and 'sports jacket' being British. --Ef80 (talk) 17:05, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
- I agree. I’ve only ever heard it called a sports jacket. I’m British and in my fifties so was around when these were more popular! So the article seems to be the wrong way round when it says which version is primarily American English. Liberaljon (talk) 20:26, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
Requested move 6 July 2018
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 07:05, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
Sport coat → Sports jacket – Per above section. Chicbyaccident (talk) 11:27, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose - of all the options in this Google Ngram, the current title is the dominant one. -- Netoholic @ 06:55, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose "Sport coat" is the most common, but none are so obscure as to be misunderstood. In fact, if one expands the Ngram in Netoholic's comment, "sports jacket" is the least common version of the name. (One word versions, when added, are so rare that it would not be inaccurate to call them errors, btw). Redirects are fine here. oknazevad (talk) 20:58, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Alright. Then this article is the exception to the otherwise WP:Consistancy wording found in Lounge jacket, Mess jacket, and Smoking jacket. Chicbyaccident (talk) 00:39, 20 December 2018 (UTC)