Talk:Sofia Kenin

GA Review

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Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 19:58, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Will be happy to review this article. MWright96 (talk) 19:58, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Early life and background

• "but returned to Russia for Sonya's birth so that other members of their family" - other family members
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
• "and her parents had very little money when they first moved" - "very" is redundant
  • Removed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
• "Kenin had the opportunity to interact with ATP and WTA professional tennis players as a young kid," - child is formal
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
• "and partnering with Jim Courier as part of an exhibition against Venus Williams and Todd Martin." - was it an exhibition match or tournament?
  • Added "event". I don't know if they played an actual match

I do not understand how the family has became citizen of United Stated? How it was possible 1987 to work as a nurse without legal papers? If Sofia Kenin has been born in the USA it could be easier. So who could explain me?

Junior career

• "she moved up to the Grade 1 level." - progressed
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
• Wikilink Junior Fed Cup to Junior Davis Cup and Junior Fed Cup
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
• "With the title, she earned a wild card into the main draw of the 2015 US Open." - Wikilink wild card to Wild card (sports)
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

2013–17: US Open debut, three ITF titles

• "Kenin began playing in a few low-level tournaments on the ITF circuit in 2013" - how many tournaments exactly?
  • Got rid of "in a few"
• "She broke into the top 150 in August" - progressed into
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
• "Kenin advanced beyond the first round of a grand slam for the first time," - grand slam tournament}
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

2018: Top 50, first top 10 victory

• "She broke into the top 100 by reaching the second round" - entered
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
• "After losing all five of her WTA Tour matches on clay in both main draws and qualifying."- both the main draws and qualifying.
  • Changed to "across main draws and qualifying" Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
• "These results helped Kenin break into the top 50 for the first time." - advance
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

2019: Maiden WTA titles in singles and doubles

• "ultimately losing in a long two-hour-and-thirty minute match." - "long" is redundant
  • Left, because the reader might not know what constitutes a long match. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

National representation

• "with the Williams sisters, Sloane Stephens, and Madison Keys unavailable for the United States, and Plíšková and Petra Kvitová unavailable for the Czech Republic." - the reptition of the word unavailable needs to be addressed
  • Changed to "Both teams were missing their best players, with the Williams sisters, Sloane Stephens, and Madison Keys for the United States, as well as Plíšková and Petra Kvitová for the Czech Republic all unavailable." Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
• Wikilink rubber to Dead rubber for readers who are unfamiliar with Tennis terminology
  • There is no dead rubber in the article. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Playing style

• Wikilink forehand, backhand and drop shot to their repsective articles for non-Tennis readers
  • Done. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
• "She can disguise whether her backhand is going cross court or down the line very well." - choose a more formal alternative word than the one highlighted in bold
  • Changed to "She excels at disguising whether her backhand is going cross court or down the line." Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
• "Kvitová also remarked Kenin plays very aggressively," - how about also noted Kenin's aggressive playing style,
  • Changed to "Kvitová also remarked that Kenin plays very aggressively"
• "a trait Kenin's father said she developed in 2017 in her first full year on the pro tour." - better: in her first full season on the professional tour in 2017.
  • Changed to "in 2017, her first full season on the professional tour in 2017."

References

• Include the names of authors in those references that contain them in those that don't currently display them
  • Added. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:30, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Will put on hold until the issues raised above have been adequately addressed. MWright96 (talk) 17:18, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

MWright96, thanks for the review! I replied to everything above. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:30, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

@Sportsfan77777: Am satisfied with the changes made so I will now promote the article to GA status. MWright96 (talk) 07:58, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Nationality and Lead

Many users keep inserting "Russian-born" into the lead. This is directly against Wikipedia rules for biography leads (Per MOS:Ethnicity which verbatim states, "The opening paragraph should usually provide context for the activities that made the person notable. In most modern-day cases this will be the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident, or if the person is notable mainly for past events, the country where the person was a citizen, national or permanent resident when the person became notable. Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. Similarly, previous nationalities or the place of birth should not be mentioned in the lead unless they are relevant to the subject's notability." The subject's notability occurred in the United States, as solely a U.S. citizen, representing the USA in tennis. Her birth in Russia has no justifiable position in the lead as she has neither represented Russia, nor even retains Russian nationality (see source here from NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/02/sports/sofia-kenin-amanda-anisimova.html). Apoorva Iyer (talk) 21:29, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

I agree that it's against MOS:ETHNICITY. Also for what it's worth, her parents had moved to the United States long before she was born. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 21:37, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Sofia Kenin nickname placement

There seems to be some issues with nickname placement in this article. Per MOS:NICKNAME it is appropriate to put the nickname in the lead when they are best known for the nickname, or it is an alias. Has this been established for Sophia Kenin? I just keep hearing Sophia on tv. We certainly don't put it mid-name in the lead unless the article is titled under the nickname, but where best should it go? To me it seems like unless it is used as often or more often than Sophia, it should be kept in the "Early life and background" section of the article. Thoughts? Fyunck(click) (talk) 02:25, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

• As I was writing in the edit summary when this went up: MOS:NICKNAME covers cases like Magic Johnson where someone is best known by a nickname, and also cases where someone is commonly known by multiple names such as Genghis Khan, Emory Sparrow, and Joey Aiuppa (those are the examples on the page). Kenin falls in that second group, as she goes by either name. Her own website is sonyakenin.com, and she generally introduces herself as "Sonya Kenin" (see this video for instance). Sportsfan77777 (talk) 02:41, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

  Then it should be done differently with no pronunciation needed (especially for a nickname). Twitter and Instagram use Sofia and her own website has her first name as Sophia so I'm not convinced. Fyunck(click) (talk) 05:53, 10 September 2020 (UTC)