Talk:Snorlax

The Modern World

=== In ''[[The Modern World]]'' ===

In today's world this very rare species is more commonly found in Beecroft, Sydney, Australia.

This seems meaningless on its face, but it's been up long enough (well, four days, but that's a while in Wiki-time) that I don't want to delete it outright. Does anyone know if this section is referring to a real thing with which I'm just not familiar, or should it be given the ol' heave-ho? --Mad Jaqk 04:18, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Four days is not particularly long for a page like this. That information sounds like nonsense to me. Does it claim that Snorlaxes really exist or something? -- Face 14:16, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

HA HA HA! As if snorlax exist...! Nonsense! 211.72.108.19 06:33, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Ridiculous...

Inspiration for Snorlax

Snorlax very much resembles the creature Totoro in "My Friend Totoro", a 1988 movie. I was wondering if that creature was the basis for Snorlax, and if so it should be put into the article.

Interesting. Could you tell us more, perhaps with a screenshot? -- Face 14:16, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

See http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Totoro We do need a source though. -- Solberg 08:49, 18 July 2006 (UTC)Solberg

Finnish mythology Kalevala have same idea; Antero Vipunen, Sleeping giant have woldknowledge, http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Antero_Vipunen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.93.100.6 (talk) 21:52, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Apparently, it was based on a person instead of the Totoro character. Jarble (talk) 02:25, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

i will try to find it again but there was an interview where a statement similar to "totoro and kabigon are definitely family members" implying they are the same species? Ciper (talk) 21:41, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Origin of Japanese name Kabigon (カビゴン)

There is no mention of the origins of Kabigon in the article so I thought I might offer up a possible explanation here:

Kabi - In Japanese it means pomp, guadiness, or splendor. Now while both pomp and guadiness usually have a negative connotation (essentially meaning excessively showy;put there for ornamentation), I think in this case it is more so referring to Snorlax's size, in that, while it's not trying to be so obese for merely appearance, it's size is so big that you can't help but notice. Also note that kabi means pomp/guadiness AND splendor. Splendor means quality of being magnificent, or luster, or brilliance (something that catches your attention + the positive connotation of magnificence). So, while its 'gaudiness' is a bit much, I think the negative connotation is somewhat dropped with the positive connotation of splendor. Kind of like a kimokawaii (something that's grotesquely cute)

The -gon suffix, while it is usually attached to names to associate attributes of a dragon, it is also common 'monster' type suffix, so kabi + gon and you got a Snorlax.

Agree/Disagree? I'd like to get the origins of the Japanese name in the article, even if I am incorrect in my assumption.

-- Kuwabatake 10:03, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, the Japanese article says it's from the nickname of a Gamefreak employee, though the original derivation is probably along those lines, or because he's so lazy mold grows on him... - Narfness 07:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

An amusing detail

The name "snorlax" can be taken as "snot salmon" in swedish. Snor meaning snot, and lax being salmon. 88.112.3.21 11:59, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Bear?

Does Snorlax really have any sort of resemblance to a bear? Maybe a big teddy bear, but not a bear in the sense of grizzly bears, polar bears, and panda bears. Ksy92003 04:33, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

No, other than the resemblance to a teddy bear (and even then, I still think it's based more off of a sloth). -Jeske ^{(v^_^v)} 04:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

really? i always thought it looked like a green panda.--65.54.154.117 20:03, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

The markings on the head look like Pac-Man facing up.Anubiz 01:51, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Delete

Delete it all he evolves. Anubiz 17:50, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Mind elaborating? Snorlax doesn't evolve unless you're playing a well-made hack. -Jeske ^{(v^_^v)} 18:18, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Munchlax makes him conted to evlison so Pokénatzi says he nolnge deservs an aritkal. Anubiz 18:20, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

... No, the point is that the two articles are being merged. The content is kept, it's just merged. – mcy1008 (talk) 18:28, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I can barely make heads or tails of what you're saying, Anubiz. -Jeske ^{(v^_^v)} 18:32, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Temp. Insanady scorry Anubiz 21:15, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

PAC man face

I put in that has markings on his face resemble PAC man but is it really relevant?

And I apologize again for going a little nutty. Anubiz 13:23, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

I'll answer your question with a question. Is the guillotine really relevant to modern France? -Jeske ^{(v^_^v)} 13:26, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes I think so don't really see what that has to do with anything, but either way somebody has to make that section of Snorlax flow a little better. --Anubiz 13:39, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Swedish meaning

In standard Swedish, snor means "snot" and lax means "salmon". The name of the Pokémon is thus quite funny to Swedes. I put this information into the article yesterday, but my addition was reverted because it was "unsourced". Anyone can use Google Translate to check, but the dictionary meanings of individual words are not something you can put in a reference. Nor should you have to. Unless someone comes up with a way to do this, I will put the sentence back again in a day or two and expect it to stick. Martin Rundkvist (talk) 21:35, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

You said it was confusing to Swedes - but did not reference that to anything that showed that confusion. The fact that the translation is funny to Swedes is not in itself notable so why should it be mentioned? noq (talk) 11:22, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

To Swedes above the age of about 20, the unfortunate meaning of the name is the only notable characteristic of this fictional character. But you don't see us asking to have the article deleted. Martin Rundkvist (talk) 12:47, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Please answer the question that was asked. Can you provide a WP:reliable source that says that. Without that it does not belong in the article. noq (talk) 16:45, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Quit camping on the article, Noq. It's not yours. Go do something constructive instead. Martin Rundkvist (talk) 18:30, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Neither, Martin, do you, and you have been correctly challenged to provide support for information that you introduced to the article. See WP:BURDEN. Unless you can do so, the information will be/remain removed. In the mean time, please be civil to other editors, including those who may disagree with you. Dwpaul ^Talk 18:50, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Well, it's not relevant... unless some third-party source covers it. I think it puts an end on this matter. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 19:13, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Question: This article mentions things like the National Pokedex, and I may just be being stupid, but should'nt the editors be more careful in using in-game terms? (For readers that are not as literite in the topic). Would like if someone could clarify. Skipper1931 (talk) 00:35, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

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Category:Fictional bears

I am not sure that the article should be in Category:Fictional bears as the Snorlax is not actually a bear and the article does not refer to it as such, merely noting that it is ursid-like. Dunarc (talk) 20:18, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Shiny pokémon in pokémon go

Shiny Pokémon in Pokémon go don't have full odds unlike gen 1-8 and furthermore. shiny Eevee is 4% for example so it is not full odds — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireboy360 (talk • contribs) 17:13, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Fireboy360, I'm not sure what you mean. What does this have to do with updating any information about Snorlax in Wikipedia? AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:07, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Pokémon Unite

Since the release of Pokemon Unite on Switch on July 21st, Snorlax has been on the main roster correct? Should Snorlax have more of a description on that? I only ask because there is information retaining it in Pokemon Ranger with Unite already surpassing the number of copies. It does not have to be anything fancy, something along the lines of it being on the lead roster of Pokemon's first MOBA as a defensive role.--Indislo (talk) 02:36, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

vandalism

"The Pokémon is not good for children under 16 do not let your child play Pokémon there is fighting and swearing and sex scenes and blood and gore it is inappropriate my whole 69 years of my life I have not seen a game this bad they say is for children."

Who put this up?

I think there need to be more vandalism checks if this was able to be unnoticed. The Dino-Pi (talk) 15:59, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Nominator: Pokelego999 (talk · contribs) 23:23, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Ca (talk · contribs) 13:52, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I will be reviewing this article for the July Backlog Drive! Since I am still new to GA reviewing, only having done 2 reviews prior, an experienced reviewer will also be taking a look. Of course, feel free to raise concerns or ask questions.

Well written?

The article is professionally written and is understandable for most audiences. However, I did find some places that could be improved for clarity and a broader audience.

Lead: Firstly, I feel as if the leading sentence is a bit clunky. I recommend taking out the bit about Pocket Monster, since it is a lesser known expansion of pokemon, and is irrelevant to Snorlax itself.

• Fixed. Missed that when I did my initial edits to this article. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

In its English-language appearances, it was originally voiced by Michael Haigney, Ted Lewis and currently James Carter Cathcart. Does this mean Lewis and Haigney were both voice actors in the original English release or that Lewis came after Haigney?

• Removed, as a lot of that information isn't in the body, and I forgot to remove it when I removed the uncited material in the article. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Conception and characteristics: An earlier design, nicknamed "Kabiin," highly resembles Snorlax and Nishino, and is thus believed to be a beta version of Snorlax. Consider changing "beta" to "earlier" for those unfamiliar with software development terminology.

• Done. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

...appearance or features as a means to make the characters more relatable to American children "as means to" sounds awkward here. How about simply "to"?

• Done. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

...localizer Bill Giese renamed the species Snorlax "renamed" might confuse readers, since the Japanese name stayed the same.

• Changed simply to "named the species in American releases..." Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

lackadaisical Consider linking this word to wiktionary

• Done. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

via breeding a Snorlax that is holding Full Incense Clarify Full Incense is a in-game item

• Done. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Snorlax is a highly sleepy Pokémon, known for constantly sleeping. Both say the same thing, one clause is redundant here.

Appearances: Snorlax is among the handful of Pokemon to possess a unique Z-Move. In Snorlax's case, it can use Pulverizing Pancake as long as it is holding Snorlium Z and knows Giga Impact This is a bit overwhelming for those who didn't play pokemon. How about adding labels like "Snorlax is among the handful of Pokemon to possess a unique attack ability Z-Move. In Snorlax's case, it can use its ability Pulverizing Pancake as long as it is holding the item Snorlium Z and knows the skill Giga Impact"

• Reworded. Let me know if this description suffices. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Promotion and reception: Following earthquakes, Niantic boosted the spawn rates of Snorlax in affected prefectures in order to boost tourism in the area In which game?

• Can't believe I forgot to include that. Fixed. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

A road in Las Vegas was named after Snorlax Recommend wikilinking the city

• Done. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

IGN editor "Pokémon of the Day Chick" Is Pokémon of the Day Chick a series of article or something? Clarification is needed.

• They're an author going under a pseudonym. Not sure it's necessary in the article given that many other pseudonym-based authors without known identities often don't have this kind of clarification. Let me know what you feel should be done, in this case. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

• I recommend removing the name since it doesn't help readers identify the author and only causing confusion. "Pokémon of the Day Chick" does not appear to be a notable figure. Ca ^{talk to me!} 07:22, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

• I replaced this reference with one from Den of Geek, a reliable source per WP:VG/S. The ref was an accidental duplicate as is.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 11:01, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Media and the Make-believe Worlds of Children clarify this is a book.

Submitter Craig Turvey ended up winning the competition take out the self-evident "submitter"

Manual of Style: I feel as if the second paragraph of the lead could be merged to the first one or be expanded. The bit about Pokémon Sleep is awkwardly tacked on, and I don't think it's mascot appearance in an obscure game is all that notable. Maybe it could be added to a prior paragraph mentioning "spin-off titles like as the mascot of Pokemon Sleep". Consider including some more details about reception too.

• I expanded out the lead. I don't think with what we have though we can push it much bigger than that sadly.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 11:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Nitpick: Ref 17 has a cite error. Although not required by the criteria, it would be nice to have consistency in linking publication and adding all the basic parameters like publisher, author, date, which some citations lack. Ca ^{talk to me!} 07:22, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

• Fixed.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 11:01, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Sources

I did a search in multiple places in Japanese, Korean, and English and this article is very comprehensive, there is not much more info to add before running into WP:DUE concerns. Good job. 👍

Maybe Snorlax in Pokemon Go can use some expansion, I've found some sources below.

Spotchecks: As of this revision Ref 11, 46, 55, 25, 44, 35 verifies the claim.

Ref 40 is good too, but clarify that Snorlax isn't unique in this.

• Clarified. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

I used a translation software on Ref 2, and I couldn't find any mention of the part where it says ...inspired in behavior and appearance by veteran Pokémon game designer Kōji Nishino.

• I've added another source clarifying that Nishino was the inspiration. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

The new source verifies it, thanks. Ca ^{talk to me!} 05:15, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

The bit about Kabiin contains weasel wording, when it os just one source's analysis. I was concerned about the Valnet source TheGamer, but it is reliable post August 2020, according to WP:VGRS.

• When I read the source, I interpreted it as simply stating a commonly held consensus. I may be wrong of course, so if you feel it needs correction I'll do so, but weasel wording wasn't my intention. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

I don't think it is a commonly held consensus since it is only found in one source, and the source does not cite anybody else.

TheGamer says Kabiin somewhat resemble Snorlax, so you should make the wording closer to the source. Ca ^{talk to me!} 00:41, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

@Ca I've reworded it. Is this good or do you think it should be changed further? Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 01:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

It's good, thanks. Ca ^{talk to me!} 05:11, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

As for the bit about the Earthquake spawn increase, I recommend using these sources instead since they have more context and is in English. [1] [2]

• I've added them alongside the original source. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

ref 24 has the wrong publisher, its ComicBook.com, not GAMING

• Comicbook.com does this with the auto-cite and I miss it sometimes. Thanks for the catch. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Reliability:

I don't really like the amount of listicles cited, but I guess there is not much you can do. A lot of Valnet are cited, but it is OK for basic claims.

Potential sources: I did find some sources that may be useful, although it's up to you if you want to include them.

• LINE sticker promotional, popular msging app in Korea and Japan

• Paradox form of Snorlax
  • Fans designing Paradox Forms for Pokémon who don't have them is relatively common and many sites cover these frequently. There's not much special about Snorlax getting one. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 19:53, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

• Shiny Snorlax in POkemon Go
  • Dexerto typically isn't a very reliable source and the information provided here isn't really that valuable. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 19:53, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

• Shadow Snorlax in Pokemon GO
  • I'll add it as an additional source for the GO content but there's not much more that can be done with this. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 19:53, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

• [3]Stampede caused by a rare Snorlax in Pokemon Go

Other criteria

Article is neutral; it would be quite hard to get an article about a Pokemon not to be neutral. The reception accurate summarizes opinions, which are positive. I actually recommend taking out "mostly" in Snorlax has received a mostly positive response since its debut since no one had a negative opinion of it.

• Changed to "generally" but let me know if you feel that should be changed. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 19:53, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Minor close-paraphrasing here: Despite its size, Snorlax is such a docile Pokémon that children use its large belly as a place to play, recommend removal or rewrite.

• Removed. Agree it's not really too useful. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 19:53, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Earwig copyvio checker returns no concerns.

Article is stable.

I have concerns about the WP:NFCC for the Kabiin image. The policy requires it to supply the original author Identification of the source of the original copyrighted material, supplemented, where possible, with information about the artist, publisher and copyright holder, and year of copyright;, but the file page does not, saying "unknown".

• KFM knows more than I do on the image's source. We'll see if we can get to adding it later today. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 19:53, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Added source information to the file.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 01:45, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

    Nice detective work; thanks. Ca ^{talk to me!} 01:49, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

    @Kung Fu Man @Pokelego999 Additional comments from an experienced reviewer: Remove the sources in the infobox as it's already mentioned in the body, and the "city" part in "New York City" in the "Promotion and reception" section should be capitalized. I believe everything would be set from here. Nice reviewing @Ca Arconning (talk) 03:11, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

    @Arconning changes have been made. Let me know if anything else needs to be done. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 03:15, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

    @Pokelego999 As I cannot promote it as GA as I'm not the main reviewer, I'll have to refer this to @Ca. Though you have my stamp of my approval. :) Arconning (talk) 03:18, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Conclusion

I am ready to list this article as a Good Article, pending approval from an experienced editor. Superb job [[User:Pokelego999 and User:Kung Fu Man. 👍

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