Talk:Sleaford Joint Sixth Form

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GA Review

Passed. It is a wonderful world (talk) 12:41, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Sleaford Joint Sixth Form/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Noswall59 (talk · contribs) 17:26, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: It is a wonderful world (talk · contribs) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Following my review of the fantastic article Kesteven and Sleaford High School, I feel inspired to give this one a go! It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Noswall59, this has been reviewed. Another well researched and written article! It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:30, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi It is a wonderful world. Thanks very much for also taking this one on. I've addressed all your comments through these edits and have responded inline below. As before, I really appreciate your efforts. Cheers, --Noswall59 (talk) 18:01, 9 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Hi @Noswall59, again, I am completely content with your changes/explanations. Passing now. It is a wonderful world (talk) 12:41, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Prose (Criteria 1a, 1b, 4) clock

Lead

From 1979, Carre's and the High School began informally coordinating their timetable and from 1980 the local authority proposed formalising a collaboration involving all three schools: WP:CINS It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done

This was rolled out: Since "this" is referring to the plural "plans", I think this should be "they" instead. It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done

If "A-level" is linked, "GCSE" should be too. It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Background

Looks good :)

Debate: Two schools or three for Sleaford?

Suggest linking "Kesteven County Council" It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Already linked in the section above.

Suggest linking "veto" It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Suggest linking "Westholme" It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Planning for a joint sixth form

would be unviable -> "Wouldn't be viable": Clarity It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done ("would not be viable")

A-Level courses that could ~~each school council~~ offer: Clarity, conciseness It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Duplication of courses between the schools was also a potential problem leading to inefficiencies -> "Duplication of courses could also lead to inefficiencies" It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reworded as suggested

The heads of the 11 to 16 secondary modern schools in nearby Billinghay and Ruskington were also in favour and hoped that it would enable more vocational courses to be taught in Sleaford as many leavers were having to take these courses at Lincoln or Grantham: A comma would be nice It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Added a comma after "in favour"

The governors approved the plans too in October 1982: The "too" doesn't feel very natural here. Maybe omit it. It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Expunged

The schools sub-committee formally approved the joint sixth form plans in November 1982: Should "schools" be possessive? (schools') It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I pondered this too. I think because it governs the schools and is not possessed by them, the answer is no. Certainly, the sources don't use one and a quick Google of "schools sub-committee" suggests that this is the norm.

Operation: 1980s to 2000s

A permanent employee was made responsible for coordinating the joint sixth form: What was the name of this position and who was first appointed for it? Assumptions can be made from the next sentence but it's not clear. It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clarified

from 1993 until 2011.: It seems a bit weird to end the history here. I'm assuming the role was never filled again, is there a source for that? It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It was never filled after Kay left; I have no source that says that, however.

By 1988, SJSF had 250 students: The history section hasn't mentioned the name yet, so to jump to the acronym is a bit of a leap. It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorted

In 2007, they could chose from: Sneaky missing "o" It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent catch; fixed

Suggest linking "BTEC" It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done

The proportion of A-Levels at A or B grade increased from 35% in 2000 to 43% by 2007, with the proportion at A-C grade rising from 56% to 70% over the same period.: How does this compare with the national average? It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No - I did try to find something, but I think this will have to do

Membership changes: 2010 to 2016

Looks good :)

Operation

and pupils can chose to study courses offered at any of the schools (irrespective of which school they are based at): I'm not sure how the bracketed text clarifies anything. I think it is already perfectly clear. It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, removed -- I was concerned it wasn't clear that pupils could be based in one school but study at any and all of them

Admissions

Looks good :)

Dress code

Looks good :)

Courses and learning support

Looks good :)

Examination results and student progression

Looks good :)

Extra-curriculars

teams from the SJSF ~~have~~ attended It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Management

Last sentence is uncited It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was summarising the table, but have removed the bit about Kay being the long-serving director and have cited his retirement year.

List of directors and directors of studies

Redlink "Stockton Grammar School"? It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Sources clock

Health/formatting (Criterion 2a) Y

The lack of URL statuses it probably the only thing worth mentioning, but isn't needed for GA. It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reliability (Criterion 2b) Y

Uses very similar sourcing to the Kesteven and Sleaford High School articles, so much of what I said there applies. I see no issues. It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spot check (Criteria 2b, 2c, 2d) clock

As mentioned on the KSHS review, I am assuming good faith for a lot of the sources due to lack of access. It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]: Y

[7a, b, c, d]: Y

[8a, 8b]: Does not support the figures It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the issue here was that I had subtracted the figure from "Students not in education or employment for at least two terms after study", which yielded 94% and 87% for SJSF and England, respectively. However, I can see that there is an "unknown" figure, so I've subtracted that too and tweaked the sentences to show that I'm also including apprenticeships in employment.

[9a, 9b]: It says 2% went to Oxford or Cambridge It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Corrected

[11]: Y

[18a]: Y but archive broken It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is - I have put "subscription required" and removed the archive.

[58a, b]: Y

[59a, b]: Y

[73]: Y

[77]: Y

[88]: Y

Copyvio (Criterion 2d) Y

Neither Earwig nor my spot check finds anything. It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Scope (Criteria 3a, 3b) Y

Looks quite comprehensive. There is no notable alumni section but I suspect that is because the school is quite young. It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stable (Criterion 5) Y

Media Y

Tags (Criterion 6a) Y

No problems :)

Captions (Criterion 6b) Y

No problems :)

Suggestions (not needed for GA promotion)

Some of the suggestions at Talk:Kesteven and Sleaford High School/GA1 apply. It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The joint sixth form was in operation from the autumn of 1983: Is it possible to give a more specific timeframe here? (MOS:SEASON) It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

with the proportion at A-C grade: En dash (MOS:RANGE) It is a wonderful world (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.