Talk:Sikhs/Archive 3
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when you make changes
when you edit this page please state what you are doing and why, as otherwise it will just be altered back and forth with problems, please log in ,then discus on this page,after a response then change, I have written the introduction for this page as I feel it is important to state the religious facts about Sikhism, the ideology and what it about are important however people must know the connection between God and Guru Nanak from what it states in the texts otherwise it will seem than Guru Nanak was just a normal person who created a region without divine help which is not the case. So please add as much as you like but only change when you have discussed it here. This page does not flow at the moment it could be a lot better so lets do it together. 13:20, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Pronounciation
It seems that the proper pronunciation is "sick", not "seek" according to a couple of reliable sources. http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/09/pronounce-it-for-me-sikh/ http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/commcomm/2012/aug/09/pronounce-sikh-correctly/ Psyden (talk) 16:02, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, Psyden you are correct. --DBigXrayᗙ 20:38, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Requested move 24 December 2018
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The result of the move request was: moved as requested per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 03:22, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Sikh → Sikhs – Per WP:PLURAL: "Articles on people groups" are acceptable in plural form. There was recent consensus to move Christians from the singular to the plural form. This RM is therefore intended to achieve WP:CONSISTENCY for religious groups across the project. See also Talk:Hindu and Talk:Muslim. Sangdeboeuf (talk) 23:50, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
- Support per WP:PLURAL. Rreagan007 (talk) 23:45, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
- Support per WP:PLURAL and WP:CONSISTENCY Nohomersryan (talk) 23:00, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Sikhism do not believe in castism , so please do remove the Caste section from this article. As said by Sikh Gurus , the one who is a sikh has no caste . So please remove this section of Caste from this article as it is hurting feelings of all Sikh community . Prince Panwar (talk) 01:03, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
Winston Churchill on sikhs
Why and who has edited or removed the statement made by winston Churchill on Sikh after the end of world war. Please explain Geelong1111 (talk) 16:43, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
please add this link
https://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Sikh[1] Sardar00 (talk) 09:06, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
References
Not done: see wp:ELNO, item 12. - DVdm (talk) 10:42, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
Is it true that pornstar -Sunny leone is a Sikh??
Hello ,
Is it true that pornstar -Sunny leone is a Sikh?
Abbasquadir (talk) 16:23, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
Should we consider Sikhs to be an ethnoreligious group in the first sentence?
Sikhs are labeled as such in the category section, and occupy a unique standing similar to Jewish and Coptic people who have social status in their ethnicities being tied to religious beliefs. Thus, should this be labeled early on in the page? ---- josharaujo1115 (talk) 21:39, 15 September 2020 (EST)
"Seikh" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Seikh. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 November 2#Seikh until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 17:17, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Mistakes, Corrections
1. Kirpan is not "daggar like" sword. Please see Kirpan 2. Violence in Punjab was started by Hindus and Nirankari and not By Sant Jarnail Singh. 10000 Hindus rioted against Amritsar as holy city by chanting "bidi, cigarette piyenge; shaan se jiyenge." and braiding swords. Nirankari claiming himself to be Guru Gobind Singh ji and challenging Sikhs. Hindus vandalized Amritsar railway station and removed Pictures of Guru Ramdas ji. Hindus were throwing tobacco in Darbar Sahib. When Haryana was formed Hindus raped and killed 400 Sikhs females and threw them in canal. Ignoring 1947-1980 ~30years of Violence by Hindus against Sikhs and picking up only 1980+ incident to blame Sikhs is a propaganda and not truth. 3. The violence against Hindus is mentioned as Sikh killed Hindus, but when it comes to Genocide in 1984 the Hindu role is removed. It should be "Hindus did Sikh genocide all over India" and not "mob". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gulzar Singh05 (talk • contribs) 09:38, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, kirpan is not dagger . 👍 210.89.58.187 (talk) 14:01, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
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Orphaned references in Sikhs
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Sikhs's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "eos":
- From Golden Temple: Kerr, Ian J. (2011). "Harimandar". In Harbans Singh (ed.). Encyclopaedia of Sikhism. Punjabi University Patiala. pp. 239–248. Retrieved 1 July 2018.
- From Ranjit Singh: Kushwant Singh. "RANJIT SINGH (1780–1839)". Encyclopaedia of Sikhism. Punjabi University Patiala. Retrieved 18 August 2015.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 18:47, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
Merge proposal
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- The result of this discussion was undecided. ThethPunjabi (talk) 16:01, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
Punjabi Sikhs should be merged into this article. Afaik, almost all Sikhs are Punjabis so it doesn't make much sense to have a separate article. --RegentsPark (comment) 13:33, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
- Undecided - whilst it’s true that the vast majority of Sikhs are ethnic Punjabis, it does not mean all Sikhs are Punjabi. To be more specific, the vast majority of orthodox Khalsa Sikhs are ethnic Punjabis but there are vast, unaccounted for amounts of other groups of people who exist within the boundaries of Sikhism and Hinduism with no clear define, such as Nanakpanthis (who are mostly concentrated amongst Sindhis) and whose numbers have wide estimates, sometimes surpassing even the number of Khalsa Sikhs. Furthermore, having a separate Punjabi Sikh page helps dispel the misunderstanding that Sikhism is theologically an ethnoreligious group by choice rather than circumstance that only exists amongst Punjabis and is synonymous with Punjab, which is not the case as there are many other ethnic communities of Sikhs who are not Punjabis, such as Sikhligar Sikhs, Kashmiri Sikhs, etc. The article Sikh art and culture discusses a few non-Punjabi Sikh communities. There is a lack of recognition and research in this field. However, there does exist some literature and scholarly work regarding non-Punjabi Sikhs and I do plan to do work in this field in the near future here on Wikipedia by creating pages dedicated to a few of the non-Punjabi Sikh communities, which are under-recognized at the moment. For the Punjabi Sikh page, it could differ from the general Sikhs article by focusing more on the relation between Punjab and Sikhism, with focus on the cultural, linguistic, historical, and social impacts. I am still undecided about your suggested merge and cannot come to a decision because I do acknowledge your point that there is a lot of clear overlap just due to the majority of mainstream Sikhs happening to be Punjabis, therefore your point is duly noted by me as well that maintaining a separate article may be difficult to justify if the content follows too closely to the other article.
- ThethPunjabi (talk) 04:34, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Undecided- Unless I’ve got this wrong, the article refers to people that identify as Indian-Punjabi which doesn’t include people who now have a different nationality or citizenship. For example someone whose grandparents moved to England when they were young. And nowadays a lot of Sikhs do hold passports for different countries so it may be appropriate to have an article for strictly Indian-Punjabi Sikhs which I think are still the majority. However it could be easier to merge into a section and make it more clear. Tescomealdeal1 (talk) 05:35, 23 March 2023 (UTC)