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[edit]This article is shaping up really well. It's very comprehensive and readable. I think it could be improved by adding some citation information - there are a ton of references but just some sections when it's not clear where something came from (the last paragraph of the lead, and the profile of victims sections particularly). In addition, some images would add interest and salience for readers. But on the whole, this article looks great! Kvanschilfgaarde (talk) 16:12, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
I am very surprised this information was not available on Wikipedia before now--thank you so much for all the work you've done! The article is comprehensive, very readable, and appropriately sourced. I'm also very impressed with the international perspective this article maintains. The "causes" section is particularly notable for its neutrality as achieved through in-text citations. I wish these in-text citations were more consistent throughout the whole article, and I wish the article provided a graph or some other visual aid. Otherwise, I'm very impressed with the work that you've done and commend you for your contributions. Magenstat (talk) 05:41, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
- Magenstat, by "this information was not available on Wikipedia before now," what do you mean? As noted at the Human trafficking talk page. Sex trafficking was extensively discussed on Wikipedia, but it was in the Human trafficking article. Flyer22 (talk) 06:16, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Dannyjimenez11 (talk) 15:33, 19 April 2017 (UTC) Hello, I am doing a project for my English class. We have to find a wiki-page and add a significant amount of information to the topic of our choice. I chose Sex Trafficking and I was planning on potentially adding more information about the certain continents and go into more detail about sex trafficking, or maybe narrow it down to a specific countries in the continent. I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions on what I can add/ where I can get started. Thanks.
Shaquillapatterson (talk) 13:00, 22 March 2018 (UTC)Sentence structure seem lengthy and could be shortened as well as small grammatical errors Shaquillapatterson (talk) 13:00, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
The image on the top of the article seems misleading. For an article with common misconceptions with it's first section, why would there be an image showing Transportation as if it's one of the key factors in sex trafficking. Combined with the fact that when you google "sex trafficking definition" and a very outdated/misleading statement pops up it's no wonder there's so many misconceptions. I'm not a regular editor, just a user (in fact I probably messed up even on this talk page) so I'll let someone else make the change but please give this some attention and display a better graphic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.13.22.137 (talk) 17:21, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
This article needs considerable work in order to assert crucial distinctions between trafficking and facilitated/organized voluntary sexual (migrant) labor. Clearly, the element of initial and ongoing coercion is central. As I have time, I'll try to list here some of the problematic elements that should be addressed over the medium term. As an initial example, (1) "Sometimes victims are brought into a situation of dependency on their trafficker(s), financially or emotionally." Could we indicate how such dependence is a distinguishing feature, by being categorically different from financially dependence upon an ordinary sponsoring employer or emotionally dependent on a partner in an immigrant-run family business? For example, could we refer and link to "debt-bondage" or the "Stockholm Syndrome" for kidnapping victims?
Apart from this class of problems with the article, we should also add a section on well considered policy solutions, linking to the goals/criteria that have been widely identified in the scholarly literature: namely reducing trafficking while not impinging on or stigmatizing voluntary sex work. There I believe the emphasis should be on identifying the specific steps that would transform sexual trafficking into ordinary, properly regulated contractual relationships (i.e. with relatively standardized, enforceable written contracts with standard/permissible provisions) with employers/investors and accompanying supportive changes in immigration policies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwc144 (talk • contribs) 09:11, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
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Sociology of public interest in this topic
[edit]This article fails to include a sociological analysis of how sex trafficking came to be defined as a social problem and why it has recently garnered public attention. Possible explanations include:
- Sex trafficking may be a myth used to promote anti-immigration laws and raids[1][2]
- "the emotive term ‘trafficking’ has become a powerful tool for prostitution abolitionists to win wider public support for their efforts to clamp down on the sex industry as a whole"[1]
Sociological explanations seem particularly necessary in light of the lack of evidence sometimes that sex trafficking is occuring.[3] That said, I am not looking for debate on this issue. I welcome other editors to collaborate on developing a new section to address this deficiency. Sondra.kinsey (talk) 19:16, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
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Further discussion - Lack of detail in this area, may lead a reader to falsely equate legitimate, consenting adult, sex-work with sex-trafficking. It may further lead a reader to wonder about the objectivity of this page in general, and HAS to be addressed. Legitimate 'Sex Workers', women and men not 'forced' into the trade, may be subject to generalization that impinges upon their human rights and their ability to earn a living, as well as criminalizing free speech via legislation such as FOSTA, and this page and associated reporting fails to take that into account, and fails to provide equal coverage. In my mind, that makes this piece as much a social opinion piece, rather than objective from a content and data perspective. It certainly contributes to decreasing the number of websites and services that may facilitate consenting adults from validating their clients, as companies that host such material are now subject to a direct infringement of their First Amendment rights. These sites have been forced overseas, and no longer to ANY regulation or oversight by US law enforcement.
nsg173.67.0.197 (talk) 01:06, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
See also: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/30/opinion/the-price-of-a-sex-slave-rescue-fantasy.html https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/06/somaly-mam-scandal-victims-can-lie/372188/ https://www.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2014/06/04/chong-kim-the-woman-whose-allegedly-true-story-served-as-the-basis-for-megan-griffiths-film-eden-revealed-to-be-a-fraud
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Public health interventions of this topic
[edit]This article lacks some of the medical initiatives and interventions related to public health. It would be beneficial to include a section on the medical response to sex trafficking in the US. Possible additions include:
• Initiation of new data codes (i.e ICD-10-CM codes, T codes, and Z codes) created by the Centers for Disease Control to more accurately categorize victims of abuse and more accurately identify victims of trafficking. [1]
• HEAL Trafficking and Hope for Justice’s Protocol Toolkit provides education and training for health care providers on how to initiate a multidisciplinary response to trafficking victims in a healthcare setting.[2]
The public health related initiatives seem to be a rather important aspect that is missing from the page. I would be happy to provide more resources should anyone wish to discuss the importance of implementing a public health section on the page.
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Hey everyone! I went ahead and added a section on the public health interventions to the page. Please let me know if you have any edits or suggestions. Also feel free to add them yourself if you'd like. Thanks! Aklunk (talk) 02:45, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Needed corrections to improve neutrality and increase encyclopedic style
[edit]Currently the Myths and Prevention sections of this article need improvement. The term "myths" is not a neutral one and implies widespread false beliefs. Currently the content of this section describes misconceptions rather than myths. There are some good facts in this section that can perhaps be moved elsewhere, such as the note on prevalence in the US.
The prevention section currently reads more like an advertisement for prevention services. While this is admirable, it is not befitting of an encyclopedia entry. An alternative may be to cite a number of sources for these services and describe the kind of services that they provide.
I am working on these changes but welcome any other editors working on this article to consider improvements to these sections as well. --AnthAJN (talk) 17:20, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
Changes to the "causes" section
[edit]I am currently working on improving the Causes section of this article. One change I plan on making is expanding the causes to include research on the socioeconomic and societal dimensions which underlie macro institutions. It will reflect construction of gender and power dynamics at play. It will also include research on current neoliberal policies built upon gender and power which encourage and allow for sex trafficking to occur. Parts of the section are also veering less neutral, which I plan on improving. If you have any suggestions or recommendations concerning the changes I am working towards including, I would appreciate the feedback. Also, as I begin to make changes to the article, I would appreciate constructive feedback.
- Tiana.hodzic (talk) 23:06, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
- update I have edited and added to the changes section of the article.Tiana.hodzic (talk) 03:54, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
Unbalanced
[edit]Recent changes to the article seem to be biasing the article towards "prostitution equals sex trafficking, stopping the demand will stop trafficking" etc. Whilst many individuals and NGOs support this view, there is much criticism of this viewpoint which is not brought out in the article, or at least not given due WP:WEIGHT so unbalancing the article. --John B123 (talk) 21:51, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
New Additions
[edit]Hello Wikipedia! I am a college undergraduate, and I will be adding some information to this article! I will be adding some more details and citations to the following (sub)sections: Common Misconceptions, Defining the Issue (United States), Profile and modus operandi of traffickers (Survival Sex), and Anti-Sex Trafficking Efforts (United States). I'm adding for a class assignment. Please let me know if you have any edits or suggestions! Thank you!
Mjb399 (talk) 04:39, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- You don't need to state on the talk page that you are going to make edits if you're not seeking consensus. If your edits are not constructive, they will simply be reverted. -- Sleyece (talk) 21:06, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
The causes section is 90% critical theory, which isn't a well-regarded branch of academia
[edit]It doesn't even include evidence, just the opinions of gender studies academics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.68.16.148 (talk) 11:31, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
NPOV issues
[edit]The common misconceptions section is structured in such a way to imply that the third-way feminist view is superior to other feminist views. It follows several paragraphs discussing conflicts between abolitionist and decriminalization feminist scholars and the perceived failings of both frameworks and it does not mention any failings of this third, implicitly superior framework.
I believe that we should edit this section so that the three frameworks are presented more equally and neutrally. Thoughts? Birdsinthewindow (talk) 23:20, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
Beware of false balance, we shouldn't assume that all POVs are equal.
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Maintenance tag
[edit]- A tag was placed in July 2020, "This article is written like a personal reflection, personal essay, or argumentative essay" (@Rebestalic:) which can be considered a WP:NPOV issue. A problem concerns which parts was considered as such or possibly the whole article?
- There have been many edits since the tag placement and the article has had "323 editors" with "136 watchers". With that in mind, and without any talk page rationale, I find it difficult to imagine singular "personal reflection".
- I hope someone can review this with the tag in mind. Lacking any comments I think tag removal a consideration. -- Otr500 (talk) 14:07, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
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Definition of Sex Trafficking Crimes in United States via TVPA
[edit]The article states that 'Through this act, sex trafficking crimes were defined as a situation where in which a "commercial sex act is induced by force, fraud, or coercion, or in which the person induced to perform such act has not attained 18 years of age."' when the text of the published law states this being the definition of Severe Forms of Trafficking in Persons rather than the definition of sex trafficking crimes as a whole. By this definition, anyone over the age of 18 would not be able to be found a victim of sex trafficking.
The definition given by the published law for sex trafficking is 'the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, or obtaining of a person for the purpose of a commercial sex act.'
Am I misunderstanding the wording of this section or does this warrant correction? Jiltedsquirrel (talk) 14:55, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- You got it right, this whole article is promoting a lay definition of sex trafficking which is not legally accurate. And I don't think that only applies to the United States, the word "trafficking" is well understood and consistent amongst most English-speaking countries. At least within the language of law. 2A0E:1C80:14:0:0:0:0:66 (talk) 17:16, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
I made an edit to fix this definition descrepancy for clarity's sake Jiltedsquirrel (talk) 01:24, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]the link to United Moms is incorrect Clarkeclark (talk) 00:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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