Talk:Sechs Kies

Official English name of SECHSKIES members: Lee Jaijin, Eun Jiwon, Kim Jaeduck, Kang Sunghun and Jang Suwon

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

The official English name of SechsKies member 이재진 is Lee Jaijin, not Jaejin, Jae-jin or Jai-jin. Please see the two new official teasers of SECHSKIES which states his name.

The official English name of 김재덕 is Kim Jaeduck, not Jae-duck, Jaeduc or Jaeduk. For Jaeduck, please see the two new official teasers of SECHSKIES which states his name. Also, he uses the name 'Kim Jaeduck' for his official Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/jae_duck_kim).

The official English name of 강성훈 is Kang Sunghun, not Sunghoon or Sung-hoon. Please see the two new official teaser of SECHSKIES which states his name. His Instagram states that it is Kang Sunghun official and the logo uses the same name 'Kang Sunghun' (https://www.instagram.com/kang.s.h.0222).

The official English name of 장수원 is Jang Suwon, not Su-won or Soowon. The official English name of 은지원 is Eun Jiwon, not Ji-won. You can also check their official names on YG's official facebook for SechsKies. (https://www.facebook.com/OfficialSECHSKIES)

However, some users insist on moving the pages to "Lee Jai-jin," "Jang Su-won" or "Eun Ji-won." If you read this document (https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Korean)#Given_name), it clearly says "If there is no personal preference, and no established English spelling, hyphenate the syllables, with only the first syllable capitalized (e.g., Hong Gil-dong)."

In case of Lee Jaijin, Jang Suwon, Eun Jiwon, Kim Jaeduck, and Kang Sunghun there are official English names, announced by their agency, YG Entertainment via the official page for SECHSKIES. People can make their own decisions in choosing how to write their names. Official names are particularly important for celebrities. Please respect the official English name, and use Lee Jaijin and Eun Jiwon.

Also, in case of Jaijin, fans have emailed YG and YG has confirmed that his official English name is Lee Jaijin. According to YG, Lee Jaijin chose "Jaijin" (not Jaejin) as his official name. So fans are trying to correct the name before it is too late. It has already been 6 months since SechsKies has made a comeback. As there is another Korean singer with the same Korean name (i.e. Lee Jaejin of FT Island), please take caution and use Jaijin for the SechsKies member.

I would appreciate it greatly, if you could keep an eye out for users who may try to change their names back to the wrong ones (e.g. Jaejin, Jai-jin, Su-won or Ji-won). Thank you! Yelkie (talk) 11:57, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Can you please change the category to inactive members not past memebers and inactive members and put Kojiyong and Kangsunghun in that box instead? Thank you:) Herlandao (talk) 17:45, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Sales of Studio albums

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I know that you want to show the sales of Studio albums but we should provide the sales with official records. Although DSP had under-reporting the physical sales of SechsKies to tax evasion allegations, we should not use the estimated sales of fans or others because of violating neutral point of view.WP:NEUTRAL In fact, in Infinite Challenge, it said the total sales of all Sechskies albums were 1,900,000. The sales of 4th album was 350,128,(http://www.riak.or.kr/chart/cdc/1999-9.pdf) was the official record of korean albums sales in 1999.

Also, the references you provide do not match the sales you wrote so please take caution and avoid using the estimated sales record and wrong references like citing discussion forum. see more onReliable Sources

I hope the IP users stop writing the estimated sales. If you continue to use estimated sales record, I may request for page protection.Thank you! Cpcam065099 (talk) 08:02, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

English name of Songs in Re-ALBUM

Please see Spotify (https://play.spotify.com/album/1BiMqdRrVyxBFxRtduw5sP) or iTunes for the Official English name of the songs in Re-ALBUM (e.g. "Got A Feeling (예감)" and "Rise Up (학원별곡)"). Yelkie (talk)

Untitled

sorry ignore my edit where i say to add a info box (as there already is one :) ).calaka 14:47, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Name

A Korean friend of mine told me about this band and I was laughing pretty hard about that name.

"Sechs" does mean "six" but: the usual translation of "Kies" would be "gravel", it can also be a colloquial translation for money (used by mobsters or other people like that), but it would never(!) be a translated as "crystal".

176.10.100.2 (talk) 12:07, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Sechs Kies

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Sechs Kies's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Gaon":

• From Sandara Park: "Gaon Chart Search: 다라". Gaon Chart (in Korean). Korea Music Content Industry Association.
• From Park Bom: "Gaon Chart Search: Park Bom". Gaon Chart (in Korean). Korea Music Content Industry Association. Retrieved November 6, 2010.
• From Black Pink:
  • "Whistle + Boombayah".
  • "Playing With Fire + Stay + Whistle (휘파람)" (Acoustic Ver)".
• From Taeyang discography: "Gaon Chart Search: Taeyang". Gaon Chart (in Korean). Korea Music Content Industry Association. Retrieved 6 November 2010.
• From CL (singer): "Gaon Chart Search: CL". Gaon Chart (in Korean). Korea Music Content Industry Association. Retrieved November 13, 2010.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 11:04, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

trivial content

hi all yellow kies,

i think we can omit some trivial content eg Attendance of concert and sales since other group did not mention it in wiki to avoid violating Wikipedia:Fancruft. Maybe we can move and build the sale to new wiki page like Sechs Kies discography. We can refer other korean group wiki page like Super_Junior

Cpcam065099 (talk) 12:08, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

I agree, but I wonder where other groups put the concert attendance and sales? I didn't see concert data in Super Junior's discography. Yelkie (talk) 14:40, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

I has seen some first generation idol group pages like G.o.d, Fly_to_the_Sky, H.O.T._(band), S.E.S._(band) and Shinhwa. No page mentions concert attendance and sales. There are sale records in discography page like Shinhwa_discography but they has used official recording Industry Association of Korea as reference while we use estimated records. I try to fix the records as official records but some IP user always insist on unproven records as well as incorrect name. I like we can request semi-protection on Wikipedia:Requests for page protection so that Unregistered and New user cannot edit.Cpcam065099 (talk) 17:05, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

I agree on 1) removing the concert attendance and sales, 2) moving the album sales data to a new document SECHSKIES discogaphy (to be created), 3) changing data to official records for album sales, and 4) requesting for page protection for that purpose. Yelkie (talk) 20:11, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

I has created SECHSKIES discogaphy page and removed concert attendance and sales.Cpcam065099 (talk) 11:48, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

I already wrote on the talk page for SECHSKIES Discographpy, but I'll repeat it here. I suggest not using unreliable data posted in forums as a reference for album sales, and also adding a controversy section to let readers clearly know why there are two separate figures for the album sales records.

Here are the references I find unreliable: Reference 12: Forum: http://mlbpark.donga.com/mlbpark/b.php?b=bullpen&id=2148458 Reference 14: Unreliable Wiki: https://namu.wiki/w/%EC%A0%9D%EC%8A%A4%ED%82%A4%EC%8A%A4/%EC%9D%8C%EB%B0%98%20%ED%8C%90%EB%A7%A4%EB%9F%89%20%EC%B6%95%EC%86%8C%20%EC%9D%98%ED%98%B9#rfn-2

Reference 9 does not have the date, the name of the writer, exact title of the article, or the name of the newspaper. (http://cafe.daum.net/_c21_/album_viewer?grpid=7OUv&fldid=2ePa&dataid=1382&mgrpid=&url=http%3A//cfile289.uf.daum.net/original/212C383757DBF15C0A07A8)

Reference 13 does not even have an article's title or the writer's name, but simply the date and the name of the news paper: 1999년 1월 28일 한국일보.

Yelkie (talk) 09:25, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Need help

Editing H.O.T., Two Two, g.o.d., 1TYM, and other articles about 90's kpop groups. seeing how u fixed up SECHSKIES, does anyone want to help?76.174.35.70 (talk) 10:20, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Ji Yong

They are discussing having him back for the 20th76.174.35.70 (talk) 13:43, 28 April 2017 (UTC)