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Requested move 3 June 2019

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 04:17, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Saša OgnenovskiSasa Ognenovski – Another one. Retired Australian footballer. Incorrect use of the letter "š". Sasa is an Australian and this letter does not exist in the English alphabet. Simione001 (talk) 05:54, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Ahecht (TALK
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This person is from Macedonia. The spelling of a person's name doesn't change just because they work in another country (and plenty of words in English, especially names, use diacritics). --Ahecht (TALK
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Comment - He is not from Macedonia. He is born and raised in Australia and played for the Australian national team on many occasions. Simione001 (talk) 23:32, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The spelling of a person's name doesn't change just because they work in another country isn't necessarily true. WP:DIACRITICS advises their use in articles based on how the name appears in reliable sources. The article Wu Chia-ching was moved to Wu Jia-qing in 2011, when the subject moved to China and the romanization of his name began appearing in sources with a Hanyu Pinyin-influenced spelling, rather than the Wade–Giles romanization typical of people born in Taiwan. José Canseco was moved to Jose Canseco on a MOS:ID basis (citing a self-published source) in 2009. Whether or not diacritics should be removed, retained or added seems best settled by a comparison of reliable sources. Vycl1994 (talk) 16:26, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Furthermore - Upon investigation, the Australian government Department of Home Affairs does not issue documents (such as citizenship or birth certificates) with diacritic. All names may only contain standard English alphabetic characters, that is 'a' to 'z' or 'A' to 'Z'. Simione001 (talk) 23:49, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 09:03, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - @GiantSnowman: There are multiple sources spelling his name without the use of diacritics. [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8] Simione001 (talk) 22:32, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 8 November 2022

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved with consensus to follow Ortizesp's comment – Saša Ognenovski (soccer player)Sasa Ognenovski, Rodrigo (beach soccer player)Rodrigo (beach soccer), Antonio Robles (soccer player)Antonio Robles (eliminating the disambiguation page), and Jeff Moore (soccer player)Jeff Moore (soccer). (non-admin closure) Adumbrativus (talk) 04:19, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]


– As seen on the talk page of Talk:Michael Green (soccer, born 1978), I have found four more page article names with "soccer player" as part of the titles. Not sure if the beach soccer player one follows Wikipedia:Naming_conventions (sportspeople)#Association football (soccer) though as beach soccer is not the same as association football. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 21:50, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.