Talk:Samurai Deeper Kyo

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Propose split

The page is too long and disorganized. I reccomend making separate pages for each characters and putting their info there. A separate page for the manga summaries would also be a good idea. - CatMarieS

I agree. I am going to start doing some work on an outline for a comprehensive SDK page. I will post a longer list of objectives later, but for now, I want to throw down a few things, the most important of which is to leave major spoilers off the first page. Dooflegna 06:28, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

These sound like good ideas, I look forward to it. I just finished the anime before looking it up. It's interesting to hear how much the manga deviates. Now I'll have to read that too. I found the entire thing rather confusing, I'm still not sure exactly what happened in the final episodes, and the whole thing is still a bit vague. Why did they go to Paris? Tyciol 09:13, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They didn't go to Paris. I believe that was the Tokyo Tower they destroyed. The anime's too confusing for me. The manga is much easier to follow and has a much better story. Hell Pyro 02:51, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The anime was started when the manga was only a few volumes in. They're up to Chapter 300, and volume 34 now...? Something like that. The manga is much much much better, simply because it's much more fleshed out and intricate. The big fanboy deep in my heart wishes that they'd revisit and redo the anime once the manga's finally finished. Oh, and I'm still working on the outline. I've gotten pretty busy in the last two months, but I think I might be able to pick things up in a bit. Dooflegna 06:21, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Has someone put this page on an earlier revision? There's a lot of info missing that was there before. - CatMarieS

Who deleted info on the other characters? I remember there being alot more info. Hell Pyro 01:12, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm slowly working on restoring the character info. It's tough not to repeat the wording on my SDK fansite though. CatMarieS

POV

I would like to propose that the anime and manga sections be combined. There's so little real information in the anime section, that it's completely unwarranted. For instance, is it just me, or are the bolded parts really POV:its hard to understand why this can be edited so easilly =(

The anime is less violent than the manga, and also contains far less nudity (and subsequently less fanservice). The anime makes heavy use of stills during battle series. While this gives the animation more of a style, it leaves something to be desired in a series that's about action. Kennyo play a more important role than the manga.

The plot deviates from the manga at points and leaves out many characters. It also fails to explain Kyo's past in any real detail, leaving him a flat character at times.

The ending and themes of the anime are also quite different from the manga. While the anime does share the manga's themes of friendship, it does not accomplish this as subtely as the manga does. The ending also seems to reflect heavily the sentiments expressed in Star Trek 6, how warriors will actually fight to avoid peace rather than to achieve it.

Would the following be acceptable to replace the whole section? I'm not familiar with the manga, so please correct any mistakes!

A major difference between the two is that Kyo in anime is the artificial construct, born of Kyoshiro's attempt to purge violence and cruelty from himself. While Kyo is sealed inside Kyoshiro after loosing a swordfight to him, as in the manga, the settings and motivations differ: Kyoshiro confronts Kyo at the Battle of Sekigahara in order to stop his bloody rampage, rather than to protect Sakuya. Apart from these, and flashbacks to his time with Muramasa and with Akira and Hotaro, the anime gives very few details of Kyo's past. In addition to these and other plot differences (such as greater reliance on kenyou), the anime omits most details of Kyo's past. The two share themes of friendship, but the anime develops the idea that some warriors will actually fight to prevent peace.

never understood ending

who won. They never say. It had demon eye's body outline but Kyoshiro's voice instead. Nevr quite understood that.

Interesting

Dan Green was chosen to voice Kyo, a meek dude with a badass spirit inside him. Sounds a bit like his other major role, eh?

Sections organization

Hello, I was wondering if the character section should be before the Manga and the Anime section of the article. The way that it's sort of stated is that the character section should go after the plot. Both the Manga and Anime sections have summaries. Perhaps from both, a summary needs to be extrapolated that corresponds to both, placed into it's own section, than have the Character section moved up. That way, if either the Manga or Anime sections were expanded to include lists, the flow of the article may work better. What do you think? --Miss Ethereal 14:51, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It seems standard practice to have the plot section before the characters, and we can deal with issues of lists when they occur. I've merged the anime and manga sections, per my unsigned comment above.--Monocrat 15:21, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was merge. --Miss Ethereal 03:40, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

Comments

It was purposed during the WP:AMCOTW on 4 June, 2006 to merge Mibu Clan into this article.

Support

The 5 day limit for consensus expires on 9 June, the last day of the collab. Hopefully someone will remember to merge the article if this merge successfully passes proposition. --Miss Ethereal 15:47, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Merge relevant bits per WP:FICTION and delete the rest. It's a candidate for deletion in its current stubby state. --Kunzite 02:45, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Squilibob 23:14, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
--Monocrat 18:04, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

I liked the old manga/anime summary better, The new one contains too little information on the two. Hell Pyro 21:19, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Active Anime vol. 37-38 --KrebMarkt (talk) 07:32, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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