Talk:Sambalpuri language

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Kosli Language Books and Magazines

I have added two images (Beni and Kosli Meghaduta)in this article. If you have some good image of books and magazines, please share. Skarmee (talk) 15:52, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Name change

I am born and brought up in various parts of sambalpur/bargarh/bolangir. Never ever heard any one one referring to our language as Kosali Language. Recently Many people are trying to push the "Kosali Language" name and I firmly believe those are people who support the separate kosal state hype. Wiki is a place where only fact should be added. And the fact is that this language is called "Sambalpuri Language" and we don't want any one to rename our mother tongue for what so ever reason.

Deogarh people people do not speak Sambalpuri. Neither it is similar to Sambalpuri. Their language sounds more similar to pure Oriya. Neither the people from Boud, or Athamalik speak Sambalpuri like language. Yes there are few localities near the Sambalpur district border where influence of Sambalpuri language can be felt. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.159.160.62 (talk) 06:36, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No where there is authentic reference that Sambalpuri language descended from Ardha Magadhi Prakrit, but it was Kosli language descended from Ardha Magadhi Prakrit, necessary modification has been made taking this into account. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Digpatra (talk • contribs) 21:33, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sambalpuri was accepted as the language of Sambalpur region, where as Kosli is reffered to the language of whole Western Orissa. Sambalpuri language as a local language has no problem, but imposing it on other local area in Western Orissa having languastic variation as their language is incorrect. Since the site has been mentioning the language of Western Orissa or Kosal region rather than Sambalpur region, Kosli language is more appropriate. Articles, books and works bearing Kosli language term have been referred. Kalahandia or language spoken in Kalahandi is not acceptd as Sambalpuri and nor the vice versa. Both are two different dialect of Odia as per official classifications, though they have similarities, same is case for language in Boud, Athamallik, Debgarh regions, but all of them accept to be part of Kosal and Kosli. Refer to work by Dr Dolagobinda Bisi, Haldhar Nag, Dr Harekrishna Meher who prefer to call their language as Kosli/Kosali, where as writers in Sambalpur region writing in Sambalpuri form of Kosli call their language Sambalpuri. Sambalpuri is part of Kosali but the other around is not correct. Same for writers in Kalahandi region who refer their language as Kalahandia, which is accepted as part of Kosli and not part of Sambalpuri. Its good that you have done extraordinary work while developing the site since a while. Thumps up to you. There is no intolerance here as officially both Kosali or Sambalpuri term appears for consideration in 8th schedule, but Sambalpuri is not widely accepted as Kosli in Western Orissa region. If you prefer language for Sambalpur region like Kalahandia language, it is welcome, but do not include/impose on the regions who do not want to part of it, as was done earlier. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Digpatra (talk • contribs) 16:20, 10 November 2010 (UTC) "Comment: Then why the name "Kosali" is being imposed upon Sambalpuri language???" If this article is not about Sambalpuri language than why it says Kosali language is also known as samblapuri language?"[reply]
Change of the article’s name from Sambalpuri language to Kosli language and making of a move was uncalled for. Sambalpuri is a widely accepted term and the article and books referred to, bears enough testimony to this. I developed the article all most from scratch but was astonished to find it moved to a new title without any notice. Intolerance and thrusting ones p.o.v on others is against the principles of Wikipedia. Show yor generosity by making a reverse move. K arundhati (talk) 14:55, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is nothing wrong if the title is Kosli language. There are many recent reports call this language as Kosli. See these:http://www.dailypioneer.com/149202/Week-long-Kosli-drama-fest-in-Balangir-from-Jan-14.html ; http://www.dailypioneer.com/131858/Kosal-Kranti-Dal-for-separate-Kosalanchal.html ; http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100925/jsp/orissa/story_12978196.jsp . We are calling the region as Kosal, so Kosli is the more appropriate term for the language of Kosal. (Skarmee (talk) 15:27, 10 November 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Here is another link to Kosli Meghaduta. (Skarmee (talk) 17:38, 10 November 2010 (UTC) )[reply]

Factually incorrect

Sambalpuri being named as Kosli is factually incorrect. Sambalpuri is the language spoken by a big chunk of the population of Western Odisha. In recent years, a faction of Western Odisha folks has been pushing for Koshali as the language of Western Odisha to give some impetus to the Koshal movement. But the whole of Western Odisha doesn't speak the same language. Sambalpuri, for example, mostly spoken in Samblapur, Bargarh, Bolangir, Titlagarh and a few other areas is quite different from the way native speakers of Deogarh speak. A Sambalpuri speaker in Deogarh will, naturally, still speak Sambalpuri and that is the reason we hear the language spoken in multiple places outside of the core belt. But that doesn't mean we can bundle everything under a Koshali language. - Remoonline (talk) 19:03, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 4 August 2018

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The result of the move request was: moved as requested: no objections in three weeks. Please introduce a new request if you would like to change the name of the page again. Dekimasuよ! 01:38, 25 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kosli language → Sambalpuri language – per article's text and the use in sources. – Uanfala (talk) 09:29, 4 August 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. Dekimasuよ! 12:30, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 09:42, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Name change

Sambalpuri is mainly considered as a dialect of Odia and hasn't received any confirmation of this being a separate language. It even has more than 70% lexical similarities to standard Odia. So, changing three title from Sambalpuri language to Sambalpuri Odia would be much more accurate and appropriate. Boy695434 (talk) 17:23, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

70% isn't that high. The study where that figure comes from has the following: The lexical similarity of the four Sambalpuri wordlists we collected on this survey was fairly high (90 to 95 per cent). Their similarity with a Standard Oriya wordlist was lower (75 to 76 percent), but still indicated possible comprehension between Sambalpuri and Standard Oriya. and also: However, it appears that there are Sambalpuri speakers, particularly older people and the uneducated, who have difficulty understanding and speaking Standard Oriya. Note also that both Glottolog [1] and Ethnologue [2] treat Sambalpuri as a language (though the latter includes it within the Oriya "macrolanguage"). – Uanfala (talk) 21:23, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]