Talk:Safe & Sound (Taylor Swift song)

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The below para in critical reception does not reflect the review cited. The author gives neutral to positive feedback saying the aspects portrayed as negative within the current entry are "Appropriate for the somber tone of Hunger Games". In the following para commenting on the then lack of popular songs written specifically for film soundtracks adding that "I’m intrigued by the tone that Swift and the Civil Wars are striking with this song — it gives me hope that the movie itself will be as tough and heartfelt as the books."

In a less favorable feedback, Darren Franich, and editor from Entertainment Weekly, was not impressed towards the track's lyrics and Swift's vocals, writing that "there's no sense of triumph". He further added that "Safe & Sound" "sounds more like a funeral dirge than a victory chant, especially as the song continues with light percussion that sounds like soldiers marching to their doom."[13]

NPOV

Under the 'Reception' section, there is a great deal of editorializing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.61.75.33 (talk) 02:17, 29 December 2011 (UTC) I agree. - Chris — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.94.139.51 (talk) 08:42, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV AGAIN

Please stop removing the NPOV tag. That's poor form, and if it continues, it will be brought to the attention of administrators. Currently, there is a great deal of NPOV in both the Composition and Reception area of this article. Please discuss how to better word things so as to avoid this. Thank you. http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_weasel_words SLWatson (talk) 18:27, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Biased

Who wrote this wiki article? A "Swiftie"? Please, consider how biased this article is. I praise swift as much as the next fan but this should be about the song, not about Taylor swift's songwriting skills or the praise she was given. Another thing, why quote PopCrush? Can't there be a more "legit" resource? Stick to billboard or something. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.185.32.16 (talk) 03:07, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Official Single or Promo single?

This is a question that needs discussed in length and unanimously agreed on by all those who edit on here so here it goes. Recently on YouTube Swift's Vevo uploaded a behind the scenes featurette where Swift claims the song is the lead single off the soundtrack. (source). But no source has stated whether this has been released to radio stations or not as an official single and a music video has been released for the song but the same has happened to "Crazier" by Swift back when the Hannah Montana: The Movie soundtrack was released but it was a promotional single. So let's get this discussion started and get other's opinions. Swifty*^talk _contribs 14:02, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in Safe & Sound (song)

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Safe & Sound (song)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "riaa":

From Two Is Better Than One: "Gold and Platinum". Recording Industry Association of America. Retrieved 2010-11-22.
From Today Was a Fairytale: "RIAA – Gold & Platinum: "Taylor Swift albums"". RIAA.com. Recording Industry Association of America. Retrieved January 2, 2010. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |work= (help)
From Ours (song): "Recording Industry Association of America". RIAA. Retrieved 2011-12-01.
From Taylor Swift (album): "RIAA - Taylor Swift albums". RIAA.com. Recording Industry Association of America. Retrieved March 12, 2011. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |work= (help)
From Taylor Swift discography: "RIAA – Gold & Platinum". RIAA.com. Recording Industry Association of America. Retrieved March 2, 2011.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 18:51, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 14 May 2012

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The song has already sold over 1 million digital downloads.^[1]

201.127.1.177 (talk) 05:26, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks for the info! -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 06:26, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart-watch/week-ending-april-15-2012-songs-gotye-beats-220532819.html;_ylt=Ai_LjkDl5CUYzf4ualTGmxYPwiUv;_ylu=X3oDMTFocnM0OXVvBG1pdANNdXNpYyBCbG9nIEluZGV4BHBvcwM3BHNlYwNNZWRpYUJsb2dJbmRleFRlbXA-;_ylg=X3oDMTFvcGs0cnBnBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANibG9nBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25zBHRlc3QD;_ylv=3#more-1306

Capital Cities song

Can we add

to avoid confusion with the song of the same title released around the same time?

Geforce2187 (talk) 04:11, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Songsteel (talk) 18:25, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit needed

Chart performance:

"Prior from the released of the album, the song rebounds from number 71 to number 35 in its 11th week."

Makes little sense and matches neither the voice nor the tense of the rest of the article. Consider:

"In it's 11th week, prior to the release of the album, the song jumped from number #72 to #35." — Preceding unsigned comment added by JoeNextDoor (talk • contribs) 22:23, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Last sentence of the first introductory paragraph reads "...the simplicity of the music, and it's lyrics, some citing..." where "it's" should be "its".

Under the section "Critical reception", a quoted source says "...breathy, ethereal and heady, not frothy and lite" where "lite" probably deserves a [sic].

It's been mentioned on this page, but the sentence under "Chart performance" which begins " Prior from the released of the album, the song rebounds" needs some serious work. I suggest: "In its 11th week, just prior to the release of the album, the song rose again from 71st to 35th on the Billboard Hot 100."

Under the section "Awards and nominations", "an CMA Award" should be just "a CMA Award".

Under the section "Music video", "In between scenes" should be just "Between scenes".

Also under "Music video", the sentence which reads "The video was shot in a cemetery and the scene with Swift on the graves are a real couple's grave from 1853" would be better phrased as "The music video was shot in a cemetery, and the scene featuring Swift sitting atop the graves are of a real couple who died in 1853."

Knaive (talk) 13:04, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done Thanks! NQ talk 03:23, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 17 October 2014

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The graves sited in the video that Taylor Swift sits on are those of George Hearn 1774-1850 and his wife, Tabitha (Skeen) Hearn 1775-1856. The article mis-quotes saying they are from 1853... These are my gr-gr-gr-grandparents. This was their land. 151.213.179.240 (talk) 17:03, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Sorry, making this change would require some sort of reliable source supporting the information you have given. Otherwise per Wikipedia policy we follow what the source says, and the source quotes Swift as saying 1853. Cannolis (talk) 17:45, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Taylor's Vocal Range in Background and Composition

Taylor doesn't go down to G3 in this song. She only goes down to B3. The G3 is sung by John Paul White. --75.37.200.47 (talk) 21:07, 20 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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In the section "Music Video," I thought it would be appropriate to mention the video's single established connection with The Hunger Games franchise. While much of the visual setting (bleak forest, abandoned house, the deer) fits District 12, it is when Taylor Swift finds a Mockingjay pin @ 2:34 that the video establishes a strong connection with the books/films.

Thank you! Tonelico (talk) 12:57, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done I've added some info with a source. NiciVampireHeart 11:08, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Genres

Please do not remove the genres of the song (folk and alternative country respectively) unless other reliable source indicate otherwise. Any additional genre(s) must be properly sourced and must be explicitly mentioned in the said source.Riot kiddo (talk) 09:30, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

HĐ (talk) 13:09, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 17 March 2023

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change "According to the film's marketing executive, "Safe & Sound" pinpoints the moment when Katniss realizes her sister Rue has fallen into danger and comes to term to prepare with the upcoming "hunger games" in which she has to participate." to "According to the film's marketing executive, the song "evokes the moment in the storyline where Rue has fallen and Katniss is comforting her and coming to the realization herself that she's going to have to carry on and win this thing now."" Sdmag0 (talk) 21:11, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Directly quoting from a source is generally discouraged, unless it is essential to the article in question. Consult the WP:MOS for more info! Thanks anyways :) Actualcpscm (talk) 22:29, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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