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Dance History

Wikipedia needs more real dance history articles! Having biographical information concerning important figures is great, but there is definitely an unfilled need for more theory-based content.

Are there any devout Labanists out there? I'm doing an assignment on Laban and don't know where to begin....PLEASE HELP!!!!!!

Laban in Nazi Germany

There's nothing about his past as a Nazi at the moment. Laban was so highly regarded by e.g. Joseph Goebbels that he was planned to make opening coreography (sp?) for Berlin olympics in 1936. Also his task was to divide different dances between Aryan and non-Aryan. Like ballet was non-Aryan, but modern dance was seen as a way to remind people of their pure racial roots. --Ukas 20:29, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

re Laban

Hi, I just started adding some things about Laban: a few biographical notes to his page, and a new page about his long-time associate Lisa Ullmann. I'd like to add more dance articles too! Plus, Laban's relationship with the Nazis has recently been a hot discussion topic with members of the Laban Guild in UK, so hopefully more on that may come to the surface. Frankieparley 08:24, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fencing etc?

Fencing was mentioned in the lead but currently isn't taken up in the main text of the article. I've tried to adjust the wording a bit in the lead/infobox, but I'm not sure how this aspect of Laban's life and legacy should be weighted.

The importance of his role in the history of fencing was sourced to a book not principally concerned with fencing, titled Hitler's Dancers: German Modern Dance and the Third Reich (p vii). While I've been unable to verify that particular page, a basic Google Books search for fencing, sabre, etc suggests to me that this claim may be undue.

The lead should really also include some reference to his (controversial) life, though I'm not going to attempt that, at least for now. 86.181.67.166 (talk) 10:53, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The few mentions of fencing in Preston-Dunlop's biography [1] seem to regard analogies he made with dance movements. While I don't doubt he could fence, I suspect that he was not a notable enough exponent for him to be listed as a fencer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.181.67.166 (talk) 10:26, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Laban makes no mention of fencing in his autobiography ^[1]. This is not an aspect to his physical practice that is born out by a consensus of the literature. Furthermore, the original p. vii reference mentioned by the OP is a page of the Table of Contents in the English language edition dated 2004^[2]. For the avoidance of doubt, the word "fencing" does not appear on said page of the ToC. --Boxcake-Augury (talk) 14:47, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Fictional information

I have just removed a short mention of the seminal dancer/choreographer Heidi Dzinkowska which supposedly influenced Laban. A quick google search shows that this person never existed and was created for the purpose of a art performance by Liz Aggiss. It did not find any similar mentions on other wikipedia pages, so it is either a short humorous attempt or an error in good will.

Alexander Doria (talk) 11:11, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Translated from the German

NorieNC (talk) 12:57, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

^ Laban, Rudolf (1975). A Life for Dance: Reminiscences. Translated by Lisa Ullman. MacDonald and Evans.
^ Karina, Lilian; Marion Kant (2004). Hitler's Dancers: German Modern Dance and the Third Reich. Translated by Jonathan Steinberg. Berghahn Books. p. vii.

[1] Laban, Rudolf (1975). A Life for Dance: Reminiscences. Translated by Lisa Ullman. MacDonald and Evans.

[2] Karina, Lilian; Marion Kant (2004). Hitler's Dancers: German Modern Dance and the Third Reich. Translated by Jonathan Steinberg. Berghahn Books. p. vii.

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