Talk:Royal family order
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Swedish Family Orders
[edit]The section about Swedish Family Order is highly speculative. The division into grades or classes does not appear in any sources I have read. Also, the Royal Cypher worn by Alice Trolle-Wachtmeister has no relation to the Portrait Badge. It is a version of the badge worn by Ladies in Waiting. /Elzo 90 (talk) 13:55, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
Also; they're not officially Royal Family Orders, but 'merely' portraits of the reigning monarch, granted as a mark of personal esteem by the said monarch.JWULTRABLIZZARD (talk) 11:24, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
Category:Royal family orders has been nominated for discussion
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Category:Royal family orders, which is the current parent category of this article, has been nominated for upmerging to Category:Orders, decorations, and medals. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:17, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Requested move 29 March 2016
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: No consensus for what a better title would be. (non-admin closure) — Dicklyon (talk) 04:31, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Royal Family Order → Female royal order – "Family order" seems to be mostly a British term and this would describe the actual content better to lay readers around the globe. I'm open to other name changes but, whatever we go with, we should standardize the capitalization. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:02, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
- No -- The target should be Royal Family Orders. The article lists a series of orders granted to British and Scandinavian monarchs,
mostly (though not necessarily)to women. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:45, 3 April 2016 (UTC)- Question @Peterkingiron: The article begins with "TheRoyal Family Order is an order awarded by the sovereign of a monarchy to female members of the royal family..." (emphasis mine). Is that statement accurate? (That's an honest question; the article is so poorly sourced entirely with blogs that I don't take anything it says for granted.) RevelationDirect (talk) 12:16, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- You seem to be right about it being entirely female. Some of the British links are to a Royal family site, where I cannot find any clear statement, but I still support my alternative target. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:00, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- Question @Peterkingiron: The article begins with "TheRoyal Family Order is an order awarded by the sovereign of a monarchy to female members of the royal family..." (emphasis mine). Is that statement accurate? (That's an honest question; the article is so poorly sourced entirely with blogs that I don't take anything it says for granted.) RevelationDirect (talk) 12:16, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
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After the wearer's death?
[edit]Since they are ringed with diamonds, I am curious: what becomes of them after the wearer's death? Are they passed down in the family? returned to the Crown? J S Ayer (talk) 03:07, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
The Dutch wikipedia
[edit]i wrote an article on these orders, including the one Prussian example and the numerous Tsarist Russian portraits of the souvereign, surrounded by diamonds and worn by men and women, usually suspended from the ribbon of a high Russian order. There were a lot of illustrations, many of Russian generals and statesman. And there were sources. the article was removed... i was punished. After all, someone anonoumusly wrote, "anyone could paste a picture from a newspaper and wear it on his breast..." the article "portrait in diamonds (decoration)" was deemed a fantasy or even fraudulent.
Robert Prummel 2001:1C01:3B06:1900:5C54:1ACA:11BD:6F6E (talk) 18:44, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
King Christian IX of Denmark
[edit]On the talk page for article Royal Family Orders of the United Kingdom we are marinating a paragraph about Queen Alexandra's portrait medallions. I am informed by the Royal Collection Trust that "The badges echo the Family Order of King Christian IX and Queen Louise of Denmark (Queen Alexandra’s parents). You can find out more in Patterson, Stephen, Royal Insignia: British and foreign Orders of Chivalry from the Royal Collection (London, 1996), pp. 142, 144, and 203." So apparently the Danish Royal Family Decoration was reinstated before the time of King Christian X in 1910, as our text now has it. J S Ayer (talk) 13:42, 13 May 2024 (UTC)