Talk:Rocky Balboa (film)

GA Reassessment

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Currently, the article has slipped below modern Good Article standards. To keep it as a GA, the following needs to be done:

• The references are just url's, titles and access dates. They need to have the publisher and date of publication as well, when they're news sources.

  All of the references have been reformatted. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 19:12, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

• Shire herself said that, in her view, "The film has great regard for the process of mourning. Sly utilizes mourning to empower Rocky, and Adrian is made very mythical." - Citation needed

  Quote was from the prior source, added a second link. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 19:12, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

• The casting section in general feels a bit lacking on cites.

  I sourced the death of Nahan, but the individual roles likely don't need to be sourced since the film itself shows the cameos/roles. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 19:12, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

It's close to a GA, so what I'll do is give you 5 days to start progress and 10 to finish. If this is fixed, it remains a GA. If not, it doesn't. Wizardman 16:32, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Let me know if you notice anything else that needs to be fixed. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 19:12, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

That was all I noticed so it remains a GA. Wizardman 20:15, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Plot summary

I certainly understand the desire to keep the plot description simple, but I think there are some errors in the final paragraph that need to be corrected, notably that Rocky isn't in the arena to hear the split decision. Rocky does indeed leave the ring before the announcement, but is still in the arena when the announcement is made. I also think it's relevant to state why Mason is considered to have earned his due respect from the fight and why it is that Rocky going the distance is considered so remarkable. Finally, I think that ending the summary with "Rocky then leaves" is too pithy for what is ultimately an emotional scene. I'm going to make a few changes. I look forward to discussing this further. Stile4aly (talk) 21:12, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Cast

I have removed Dolph Lundgren from the cast as there is no reference to him being in the film. Also the character as per the description is as follows: "Dolph Lundgren as Ivan Drago. Appearing in the crowd at the end of the match, he wears a pin of USSR flag on his chest, keeping his eyes down, like in a humble, respectful but also somehow defeated way. Curiously, Lundgren/Drago is not quoted in the closing credits, though his presence may suggest his comeback, as in "Creed II"." This is a different actor (much younger), not wearing a USSR pin but rather a red pin with a white diamond shape in it. Frogfisher (talk) 00:08, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Weird Al Influence

Could the decision to make Rocky a restaurant owner late in life have been influenced by Weird Al Yankovic's portrayal of him in "Theme from Rocky XIII", which was released over 20 years before? I'm wondering if the filmmakers were aware of Yankovic's song and decided to incorporate aspects of it into this movie. Have they confirmed or denied this? Stonemason89 (talk) 22:59, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

I think both Weird Al and Stallone were influenced by all the former athletes who became restaurant owners. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.54.214.19 (talk) 21:18, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Critical responses

What a hoot! A review section that includes important and 'influential' critiques. These included Entertainment Weekly, the Los Angeles Times, and of course the mainstay of international media Manx Independent. Hey I never knew it had such a powerful opinion in Hollywood!!! Or I am missing something in this "good article"?

Rocky Winning

Summary says Rocky leaves as it is announced that he wins in a split decision. I don't know why this was written but it is false. He leaves as it is announced he lost in a split decision. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.107.84.180 (talk) 21:00, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

That is actually one of of the alternate endings, which I think deserves a section all of its own. doctormouse

So ... ?

The plot summary ends with the sentence "Adrian's tombstone is still at Laurel Hill Cemetery in the East Falls section of Philadelphia, just to the southeast of the main entrance." What the heck is that supposed to imply? Was she expected to move or rise up or something? WHPratt (talk) 19:11, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

It's badly written but it means that in the real world the gravestone is still in the cemetery so people can visit it. Apparently people do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.4.142.102 (talk) 13:49, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't belong in the plot summary. I'd suggest that it should be a footnote that admits it's a fake grave. Or maybe in a "popular culture" section.WHPratt (talk) 17:08, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

expand section Reception

The paragraph starting with "Among other positive reviews were those from.." followed by several references is baffling. Are we supposed to click the links to read the reviews, or what? What is the purpose of merely collecting a number of reviews?

No, I added this template to encourage the editors adding the review to actually provide samples of the various reviews and summarize any general consensus. Barring that, I propose the entire paragraph to be deleted, since it is presently nothing more than a glorified link farm, I'm afraid. CapnZapp (talk) 08:39, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Ivan Drago

I wanna thank for the deletion, as fake, of the appearance of Ivan Drago in "Rocky Balboa" at the end of the movie. Yes, the "cameo" lasts only 2 seconds but Dolph Lundgren is there. But he is not in the Cast. Sure, cinema history is made of silly, lil' pearls like that, but who cares? The fun is another page in wikipedia confirms what I tried to add, but no worries, keep wikipedia like that, I won't mess any more and I will say around how it works. Gipappa (talk) 00:52, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

The Extended Version

I heard recently that there's a upcoming direcotr's cut version called Rocky Balboa: Director's Cut on 4K Ultra HD, and the part of the six film collection on 4K Ultra Blu-Ray.

Not to mentioned that I also heard that they were rumors that the original runtime of the film was 150 minutes long before it was cut down to 102 minutes. Now, we have a director's cut being over 116 minutes long. Stephenfisher2001 (talk) 01:42, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

GA concerns

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria. My concerns are outlined below:

• There is a lot of uncited text, including entire paragraphs.
• The "Release" and "Other media" suffer from MOS:OVERSECTION: either these should be expanded or the level 3 headings removed.

Is anyone willing to fix up this article, or should it go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 17:47, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

Rocky Balboa (film)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Result: Delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:03, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

There is a lot of uncited text, including entire paragraphs. The "Release" and "Other media" suffer from MOS:OVERSECTION: either these should be expanded or the level 3 headings removed. Z1720 (talk) 20:57, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

With regards to WP:OVERSECTION there appears to be one editor with an obsession for adding "Other media" a section heading and cramming subsections under it with no regard whatsoever for the 'oversection guidelines. They also have persistently moved the Home Media section and put it as a subsection of Release, where before it had been a separate section near the end of the article. For years they have spammed their personal preference across many articles, including this one(diff) and they've done it so persistently and obsessively and for so many years that editors might be tricked into thinking there was any actual consensus for any of this.

I see no logical reason to force Sequels under "Other media". I see no reason not to give "Video game" its own top level heading. -- 109.79.169.171 (talk) 03:43, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

I am very skeptical of the Soundtrack section and the suggestion that there was "debate". I don't think it meets current standards at all. -- 109.79.169.171 (talk) 04:31, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.