Talk:Robert Trivers

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Science and Academia

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography
	This article is supported by the science and academia work group.

Psychology Low‑importance

	Psychology portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Psychology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Psychology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PsychologyWikipedia:WikiProject PsychologyTemplate:WikiProject Psychologypsychology
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Evolutionary biology Low‑importance

	Evolutionary biology portal This article is part of WikiProject Evolutionary biology, an attempt at building a useful set of articles on evolutionary biology and its associated subfields such as population genetics, quantitative genetics, molecular evolution, phylogenetics, and evolutionary developmental biology. It is distinct from the WikiProject Tree of Life in that it attempts to cover patterns, process and theory rather than systematics and taxonomy. If you would like to participate, there are some suggestions on this page (see also Wikipedia:Contributing FAQ for more information) or visit WikiProject Evolutionary biologyEvolutionary biologyWikipedia:WikiProject Evolutionary biologyTemplate:WikiProject Evolutionary biologyEvolutionary biology
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Why is this short

I don't have time right now to write more about this guy but more needs to be done.2601:0:AC01:8200:4568:B0FF:70E3:B6E4 (talk) 22:42, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, I'm rather shocked at how brief this is given what an immense contribution Trivers made to the biology of behavior. I'm going to have some time later this week and I plan to do some editing here and also on The Folly of Fools which is also very sparse. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 01:36, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Huey Newton's title

Huey Newton is named here as chairman of the Black Panthers but in the main article on Huey Newton, he is referred to as Minister of Defence. Which is correct?

Does Dr. Trivers have a Jamaican connection? I thought he did, because at some point he lived there, I think?? Can anyone confirm? 66.161.120.11 16:21, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See references for articles detailing Trivers' connection to Jamaica. Rolando 05:42, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation

"Triv" or "try", i.e. a short /i/ or the dyphthong /ai/ in the first syllable? While perhaps obvious to the native speakers of English, it is far from that to those speaking English as a second language. Needless to say, the same goes for a great number of other names. Ariosto 04:12, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It rhymes with "shivers." I will request an IPA pronunciation. Rolando 05:42, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done - Zeibura ^(Talk) 08:55, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bachelor's Degree

He did get a BA in history, didn't he? I suppose that the parenthetical just refers to him not having gotten a BA in biology. Is that right? If so, it's a bit confusing. JrFace 21:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, he didn't. He suffered a breakdown and dropped out of Yale. He claims in Natural Selection and Social Theory (2002) to have never received a bachelor's degree. 65.95.162.144 00:34, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Time 100

There is no indication that he was named to the Time 100. Edge (http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/bios/trivers.html) claims he was, but where did they get that information? The link on this page goes to a commentary article on Time, and Trivers does not appear in the Time 100 list for any year. 65.95.162.144 00:36, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

some geneticists say there is no such thing as race...

Reading this article I realized that, while it is common in wikipedia to mention that somebody is Jewish or African American, etc., articles don't generally mention "white" or "caucasian". It says in this article that Trivers joined the Black Panther Party, which of course was a black political movement. I had to google his photo to draw my own conclusions about the significance of Trivers's friendship with Huey Newton and membership in the Black Panthers. I'm not saying anything, I'm just saying: it's a weird policy; probably, it's been discussed somewhere else before.

I think an easy fix would be to add Robert's charming mug to the infobox. I'll see if there is an image in the commons. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 01:40, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No luck there. I hate working with images so avoid it as much as possible, does anyone have any suggestions where I might find a public domain photo of Trivers? Or is it possible to make a fair use exception? --MadScientistX11 (talk) 01:43, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I reached out to the web master at Trivers personal site. He replied very quickly and said he would see what he can do :-) --MadScientistX11 (talk) 19:23, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't heard back from the web master yet but my guess is that Trivers has other things on his mind right now. He is involved in a controversy at Rutgers, they suspended him for refusing to teach: http://www.nj.com/education/2014/02/rutgers_suspends_top_anthropology_professor_for_allegedly_refusing_to_teach_report_says.html I plan to work this into the article and after another week or so I'll ping the web master again. If anyone has any suggestions for other sources for copyleft pictures of Trivers please let me know. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 02:51, 15 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]