Talk:Robert Dollar

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A major West Coast shipping line???? not important?

Importance

As well as the first round-the-world shipping line and a major, major developer of U.S.-China commerce. Richardjames444 19:19, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I plan to add in some info from his biography in the next few days and cleanup the article a bitRichardjames444 19:22, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to "not important?"; just for the record. First, the article is not just about a "shipping line". The title is Robert Dollar. Robert dollar (and his company) was involved in for more than is even listed to include airplanes and even wireless communications. Yes, in the 20's and early 30's he had a vision and even stated this as I have included. I hope I have added information of interest but have much more. As for the shipping line it was re-directed to the APL article and I am thinking of separating it because there is "nine cubic feet" of information, and this is just in one location, stored as history in boxes concerning Robert Dollar, his enterprises, and his family. Otr500 (talk) 23:25, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moved to a more specific section of WPTransport, the Maritime Trades Task Force, re-rated as "High". Djembayz (talk) 03:18, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Union Bay"

This article currently links to the disambiguation page Union Bay. Nothing mentioned on that page appears to be what is meant here. - Jmabel | Talk 03:41, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion

I re-organized and added information but still have more and will organize accordingly. Otr500 (talk) 08:59, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Textorus; Of course it does need a lot of work but that is a given with start articles. I have more information to add when I can so I hope you keep your editing cap handy. I also have more to add concerning ships and I utilized columns to see how it looked. I have plans (as stated) to separate the information concerning Robert Dollar's ship line from the APL article as it should never have been redirected from a historical point of view. Otr500 (talk) 04:53, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Glad I could help, fascinating biography. I didn't realize anyone was still working on the article; we really need an "under construction" flag we can hang on things while they are in process, ya know? Textorus (talk) 05:30, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, I've just divided the list of President ships into two columns, which I think looks better visually; you can use the same formatting on the other ship list if you want. Or delete if you don't like, just an idea. Textorus (talk) 05:54, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WHAT! delete? I think it is a better look so I changed the other list to match yours. I like history and this was an exceptional person that contributed to society in many ways. The shipping article was merged with APL and that may be alright in some cases but there is so much history concerning Robert Dollar, his shipping line (and other ventures), and his charity, that it is not fair to his legacy nor Wikipedia that these be merged. I have recently started a new job and worked 120 hours this week so my time is somewhat limited. Any extra-curricular activities will obviously cut into my sleep time so I appreciate your help. When I get enough information you might be interested in the separating of Dollar Line from APL as I have not gotten that far yet and time is more valuable now. I will have more time when I get my new laptop and another inverter for my truck.

I like what some might call history trivia but I refer to it as just relatively unknown historical facts. An example would be the article on Junction, Texas. The last recorded killing of a white person in Texas by hostile Indians was a 12 year old boy in Junction. This might be trivia but I find it informational from a historic point of view. I had the information saved on my phone with pictures but my phone decided to die. I was in Junction two weeks in a row but don't know when I will get back. I think this is historical information that will add value to the article. Again, thanks for the help. I added an Under Construction sign since you brought it up. I guess, lacking a template, this would suffice at the top of a talk page (chuckle). Otr500 (talk) 22:38, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey bubba, I've run out of time here to work on WP stuff much, got other things going on. But I just put an invisible note at the top of the article page that editors can see; maybe that will help. Really need a blue flag for things that are "in the shop," ya know? Good luck, I'll check back one of these days and see how you do. Textorus (talk) 01:26, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In his own words, Memoirs of Robert Dollar https://archive.org/stream/memoirsofrobertd00dolluoft#page/n7/mode/2up

Robert Dollar's dream was to start a farm with money he saved while working on the Ottawa River. After acquiring property in the Free Grant Lands of Muskoka, Dollar moved to Fraserburg (near Bracebridge) in 1872. He invested his life savings in logging a plot of timber which he cut and drove to Lake Muskoka. By the time he got the logs to that point it was near the end of the season so he decided to hold the logs there and drive them out to a mill on Georgian Bay in the following season. The Panic of 1873 crippled the Canadian and American lumbering industry. Robert Dollar remembered it as Black Friday, when he lost all he had invested as well as money he had hoped to gain.

Robert Dollar continued through the decade until 1880 in the employ of Midland lumberman Hermon Henry Cook. Late in 1880 H. H. Cook and Alexander Mackenzie purchased a portion of a land grant of the Duluth, South Shore and Atlantic Railway, on the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, to which they promoted Robert Dollar to manage sawmill operations there under the name of the American Lumber Co. Dollar stayed at Dollarville, Michigan for 2 years before going on his own at Marquette, Mich. which he left in 1888 to manage his uncle's Pacific Ocean steamship service. W W (talk) 16:21, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Under Construction

This site is currently undergoing improvements by at least the above two listed individuals and anyone else interested. Please bear this in mind when performing any edits.Otr500 (talk) 22:38, 25 September 2010 (UTC) I was sent a message that the article has been under construction 4 years, 11 months, 29 days ago, which is pretty much true about any article but I guess that is long enough to close this section. Otr500 (talk) 23:07, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Messy

The references are badly formatted ! ~~ Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk) 19:48, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OMG! The reference format sucks. Wait! that was already said just in nicer words. In that case I agree. I will look into this and anyone else is certainly welcome to jump in. Otr500 (talk) 00:28, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

google: stanley dollar -clubhouse -rossmoor -Walnut-Creek -Facebook -LinkedIn -Morgan-Stanley -North-Dakota -Dollar-Tree -Family-Dollar -Million-Dollar -Stanley-Farms -Lord-Stanley -Port-Stanley -Stanley-House -Stanley-Fischer
google: site:content.cdlib.org Stanley Dollar
http://www.dollarpoint.org/community-info/dollar-point-history/
The Robert Dollar Story - By Edward Prather

Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk) 20:31, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]