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Rio film series

Can you make a Rio (film series) article? For the Highest-grossing animated franchises and film series. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DCF94 (talk • contribs) 15:10, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Let's wait for the third one.--Carniolus (talk) 23:15, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If the 2 films reaches $1 billion would you be willing to make the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DCF94 (talk • contribs) 19:51, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If the sequel does well then a third film would be inevitable, so yeah we probably would. Koala15 (talk) 00:16, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There would have to be solid documentation in reliable sources that Rio will become a franchise. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball; we can't just assume that a third movie will be made based on the success of the first two (we aren't even sure if Rio 2 will be successful or not as it hasn't even been released). I would wait until it's officially set in stone that Rio will turn into a franchise or film series before considering to create such an article. Mz7 (talk) 21:16, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

YES, a franchise needs more informations, BUT a film series needs to have at least two films. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DCF94 (talk • contribs) 00:12, 22 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Point taken, but frankly, all the information that could possibly be contained in a film series article can already be covered the articles about the 2 films. There's very little necessity. Most sources either document the production of one film or the other. This isn't Star Wars or Harry Potter (film series). Perhaps, if more information comes about in the future that would warrant a film series article, I would support it. As of now, I do not think such an article is necessary or suitable. See WP:TOOSOON. Mz7 (talk) 21:45, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: See also the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rio (franchise). Mz7 (talk) 13:41, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Released?

Is this film released yet? The article states that the film was released internationally on March 20, 2014, but I can't find any reliable sources on the web proving that besides IMDb. It looks as if April 11 is the international release date... someone please clarify. Mz7 (talk) 04:11, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved

– I've added a reference to the official press release which confirms its international release date. --Carniolus (talk) 12:43, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And it's released in the United States since yesterday. --Allen ^{(talk to me! / ctrb / E-mail me)} 20:32, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Page Split

I think we need to create a page just like this for the Rio film series. Anyone care to comment ?? DtwipzB chat 15:35, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There was already a discussion about this in the above section. I think that consensus was that we should wait for the third film.--Carniolus (talk) 11:49, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Possible sequel

He lied. Carlos Saldanha was just goofing off with us. There's actually not going to be a Rio 3 sequel tonight, because of its unknown release date and it's an April Fool's Day prank. Don't worry, there's more than just the Rio series to explore! WikiWithMe (talk) 15:52, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Big Boss's fate

Some anonymous users keep changing the plot to make it so Big Boss escaped unscathed, when actually, he ended up eaten by an anaconda. Can someone please help straighten this out? Brian K. Tyler (talk) 01:29, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If you want a content change, it's up to you to convince those opposing you that your version is better. No one cares what you think it should be (nor what anyone else thinks it should be). Make logical arguments based on reliable secondary sources and Wikipedia policies and guidelines. If you cannot gain consensus for your change, it doesn't happen. See WP:TRUTH. 174.212.222.48 (talk) 02:14, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Somebody actually needs to watch that part of the movie to see what actually happens. Brian K. Tyler (talk) 02:26, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All I ask is someone actually get the plot of the final cut of the movie correct, and leave no ambiguities. Brian K. Tyler (talk) 02:54, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've just asked some uninvolved third-party editors from the Film WikiProject for their thoughts on the matter. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:41, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For plot descriptions the actual film itself is the sufficient primary reliable source as long as there is no interpretations or evaluations of what things mean, just pure descriptions of what happens. Anything beyond what is shown in the film itself needs a secondary source. There should be no question here that if the film shows something happening, then the description should reflect what is in the film. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:55, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also note that one of the IPs involved, 2600:1014:b112:1659:ccc6:94b5:62e2:aae2 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), has violated WP:3RR within a 24-hour time period ([1], [2]). Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:22, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've reported the IP for edit warring here. I'll try to find a secondary source that can confirm Big Boss's fate. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:44, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How about this source? "Rare Villain Defeats: Big Boss". YouTube. Retrieved July 9, 2017. Brian K. Tyler (talk) 15:36, 18 April 2021 (UCT)

If you look at the end of the clip shown in this [video], you can see the snake’s bloated belly with Big Boss's hat on top, and the snake coughs up the lollipop Big Boss tried offering earlier, which clearly means the snake did indeed swallow him whole, which also confirms Bia's research in this film. Brian K. Tyler (talk) 05:18, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's heavily implied but not explicit! Taking the advice of MOS:PLOT I have explained what we see on the screen, the readers can make up their own minds like the viewers can! "In such cases where a true narrative is not immediately obvious, this can be avoided by the use of out-of-universe language" (I think it is close to 'obvious' that he was eaten, but hopefully this compromise is helpful.) JeffUK (talk) 08:49, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This addition has been reverted twice by an IP editor because apparently, reporting exactly what happened on the screen is 'Original Research'.. absent any sensible objection or engagement in the talk I'll re-add it one more time. JeffUK (talk) 21:23, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Plot summary trimming

Unfortunately, the plot summary might need to be trimmed down to 400 to 700 words as per WP:FILMPLOT, since the current plot summary has 855 words. Any ideas? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 06:05, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've made a start, but it's hovering close to 700, and 700 is a limit not a target. It could do with some refactoring but I've not seen the film! So could only take out things that were obvious asides or embellishment etc. JeffUK (talk) 21:21, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]