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Requested move 1 January 2023

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Mixed.. Consensus not to move the articles as suggested, recognising that the slightly different spellings are sufficient as dab. However, there is consensus to move Richard Hoffmann (composer, 1925) away from non-standard dab. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 16:18, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]


– Coincidentally, there are three Richards with similar last names (Hoffmann, Hofmann, Hoffman) who were all composers. The main article I'm requesting to rename is the first one listed which is Richard Hoffmann (composer, 1925) because the title says 1925 when it should say born 1925. For the other two, I'm leaning towards including their birth year in the title just because of how similar their names are. TableTennisNoob432 (talk) 07:23, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I see there is a single n. Well let's not make life easier for readers. Oppose on the grounds of helpfulness. We are not here to help readers. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:32, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I assume that you're being tongue-in-cheek, which doesn't always come across well. Could you please explain in more detail how the title change would be more helpful compared to the currently-proposed alternative of a hatnote with the concise title names? As I understand, disambiguifying information of this sort is already provided in the first sentence of the article, so anyone on the wrong composer's page wouldn't take much longer to understand this compared to it being in the title. The hatnote, while not mutually exclusive with the detailed title, would warn the reader that there are other composers with similar names the same as the detailed title would and also provide the links to anyone that he may be confused with. Randi Moth (talk) 20:36, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.